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This is an early clip from our podcast with John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall, which releases today at 5PM ET. In this clip, they discuss John Vervaeke's proposal on orientation and self deception, prompting a deep dive into Dante's Inferno and the nature of lying.

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Clementine Breen, a child who was moved through the transgender pipeline and has since de-transitioned. Together they walk through her story (from early sexual abuse to the daunting decision to undergo affirming surgery), the confusion and fallout thereafter, reorientation, and her lawsuit against the doctor who led her astray.

Clementine Breen is a de-transitioner who experienced early sexual abuse before having her gender dysphoria misdiagnosed as being transgender. Top surgery was sold to her at age 13, all the while her parents were told the atrocious “dead daughter or living son” lie. She is currently embroiled in a landmark lawsuit against her former doctor, Dr. Olson Kennedy.

This episode was filmed on January 1st, 2025.

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(0:00) Coming up

(0:54) Intro

(6:34) A difficult conversation

(9:28) Sexual abuse before puberty

(13:10) A theory for anorexia

(14:10) “There’s no excuse for not explaining this”

(18:09) Bad counseling and affirmation

(19:45) Major problem: the legal and professional standard of care is gender affirmation

(22:35) “They told me I was supposed to be born male”

(26:28) Social transition fueled popularity

(29:52) “Transition” didn’t resolve her issues: increased stress, insomnia, and hallucinations

(33:08) The shame, rationalization, and deep complexity of childhood abuse

(37:22) Trying to live up to a perception of masculinity, side effects of testosterone

(40:47) The “at risk for suicide” lie used to push children into the trans pipeline

(50:53) Constant affirmation, “I hoped it would be the answer”

(54:59) Finally recognizing past abuse at age 16, “I couldn’t function properly”

(57:04) The consequences of puberty blockers, the decision to undergo surgery

(1:01:49) Rubber-stamped despite conflicting medical notes

(1:04:12) Waking up after surgery, “I was so numb … dissociated”

(1:09:04) A new therapist changed everything, “we did not talk about my gender”

(1:14:36) Focusing on interests, passions, and the future — deciding to de-transition

(1:17:31) “I could not picture myself as someone's father”

(1:19:33) Clementine’s attitude toward femininity now

(1:21:40) Bumping into Billboard Chris: a viral conversation

(1:25:55) Mounting the lawsuit

(1:28:59) Notoriety and college life

(1:30:47) Fear, PTSD, and reconciliation

(1:34:11) “I’m female and I’m happy to be female”

(1:35:04) Clementine’s words for every young girl

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This is an early clip from our podcast release today at 5PM ET. In it, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Clementine Breen discuss the aftermath of her stark realization - she was never transgender, and her doctors lied.

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This is a clip from our recent podcast with Jim Balsillie. In it, he and Dr. Jordan B. Peterson discuss the trade war being led against Canada (and numerous other global powers) by Donald Trump, the morality and legality of his methods, the likelihood they will work as intended, and the hard choice Canadian businesses have to make: for country or profit?

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This is a clip from our recent podcast with Corey DeAngelis. In it, he and Dr. Jordan B. Peterson discuss the promise and ultimate failure of the Head Start education program, how a lottery system affects school success, and the studied changes to the system that have yielded positive results.

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Jordan Peterson sits down with retired co-founder and co-CEO of Research in Motion, known predominantly for the BlackBerry. They discuss how Balsillie helped transition the world into the smartphone age, Canada’s faltering economic performance (well before Trump’s trade war), why America is taking these actions now, and the ideas of Mark Carney (Trudeau on steroids).

Mr. Balsillie is the retired chairman and co-CEO of Research in Motion (BlackBerry), a technology company he scaled from an idea to $20 billion in sales globally. His private investment office includes global and domestic technology investments.

He is the co-founder of the Institute for New Economic Thinking in New York and founder of the Council of Canadian Innovators based in Toronto, the Digital Governance Council in Ottawa, and the Centre for International Governance Innovation in Waterloo, as well as the Centre for Digital Rights, the Balsillie School of International Affairs, the Arctic Research Foundation, and Canadian SHIELD Institute. He currently chairs the boards of CCI, CIGI, Innovation Asset Collective, and Digital Governance Council. He is also a member of the Board of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the Advisory Board of the Stockholm Resilience Centre; an Honorary Captain (Navy) of the Royal Canadian Navy, and an advisor to Canada School of Public Service.

This episode was filmed on March 7th, 2025.

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(0:39) Intro

(6:50) The man behind BlackBerry — and quite a bit more — Jim Balsillie

(11:29) Canada’s economic situation now, examining the past 30 years

(15:40) When the “shift” occurred: the Orange Book and the secret revolution

(18:04) Moving from open to closed knowledge; what are intangible assets?

(20:25) The goods virtualized but Canada stayed analog

(24:40) Stronger IP enforcement fueled monopolies

(26:48) Canada is “cemented in last place” for performance on GDP growth per capita

(29:16) 10 years from now if nothing changes: "Puerto Rico with a passport”

(34:38) The lie of Google’s “smart cities” and the danger of giving big tech control

(44:00) There are no other reasons that Canada is failing, “Our economic structure is close to Russia’s right now”

(49:37) The manufactured myth of the “resource curse”

(51:49) Comparative advantage, strategic behavior, and Trump’s endgame

(1:00:09) “Trump’s behavior is unpresidential, unprovoked, unkind, it’s almost certainly illegal”

(1:06:01) The potential paradoxical effect

(1:07:51) How the trade war is affecting Canada

(1:09:22) “Trump has made a strategic mistake … like the Russians with the Ukrainians”

(1:13:22) The dawn of transformation for Canada’s politics: Mark Carney

(1:17:56) Mark Carney is trying to position himself as an outsider - he isn’t

(1:23:20) A closed economy model will not work for Canada, nor will the green agenda

(1:25:50) Trudeau was a follower of bad ideas, Carney is an architect - “it will fail”

(1:34:29) Poilievre is imminent

(1:39:10) “It’s definitely not 1970 anymore,” the policies Canada need to compete with America

(1:46:30) There are many great Canadians working towards a brighter future

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This is a clip from our recent podcast with Corey DeAngelis. In it, he and Dr. Jordan B. Peterson discuss the environment set for teachers at public schools, from curriculum mandates to low pay, explaining why good teachers are hard to come by.

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Jordan Peterson sits down with bestselling author, commentator, and researcher, Dr. Corey DeAngelis. They shed light on where 50% of all state budgets are spent, the surprising stack of monopolies that strangleholds public education, the partisan lies surrounding school choice, and the truth every parent needs to know: school choice uplifts all students.

Dr. Corey A. DeAngelis is a senior fellow at the American Culture Project and a visiting fellow at the American Institute for Economic Research. He has been labeled the “school choice evangelist” and called “the most effective school choice advocate since Milton Friedman.” He is a regular on Fox News and frequently appears in The Wall Street Journal. DeAngelis is also the executive director at Educational Freedom Institute, a senior fellow at Reason Foundation, an adjunct scholar at Cato Institute, a board member at Liberty Justice Center, and a senior advisor at Accuracy in Media. He holds a Ph.D. in education policy from the University of Arkansas. He is the national bestselling author of “The Parent Revolution: Rescuing Your Kids from the Radicals Ruining Our Schools.”

This episode was filmed on February 28th, 2025.

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(1:01) Intro

(4:38) Avoiding ideological capture in the Department of Education Reform

(7:16) 50% of state budgets are spent on K-12 education — where the monopolies form

(12:20) “Academia is failing because we need more money”

(17:49) Why Democrats refuse to vote for school choice, how the pandemic revealed a broken system

(21:29) Educational psychologists tend to promote and amplify the worst ideas — the science of teaching does not need to be reinvented

(26:47) How Dr. Peterson mapped politically correct belief systems, why academia attracts low-conscientiousness radical leftists

(34:58) Competition in education increases quality across the board

(39:54) The academic elites already know the truth about competition

(42:32) Publishing four studies a year for nearly a decade

(45:59) Public influence and Trump’s endorsement

(47:20) Fund students – not systems, a major weakness of the Conservative Party

(51:18) Was the Head Start program a success or a failure? Lottery outcomes in education access

(55:13) The reasonable idea behind Head Start and where it went wrong

(57:59) Flipping the politics around school choice, the Virginia election

(1:03:26) Teacher certification needs a multi-pronged solution

(1:09:50) Where the money goes…

(1:14:38) DeAngelis' use of X to shift the political landscape

(1:18:33) What about the children with uninvolved parents?

(1:22:29) School choice uplifts everyone — not just the rich

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This is a clip from our recent podcast with Dr. Arthur Brooks. In it, he and Dr. Jordan B. Peterson discuss the need for discernment around useful dreams and harmful nightmares.

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This is a clip from our recent release with Dr. Arthur Brooks. In it, he walks Dr. Jordan B. Peterson through the "what's your idol" game, which uses elimination to both pinpoint your primary want - and warn of its downfall.

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