Korby talks with journalist and author Jordan Ritter Conn about his new book American Men, interviewing 50+ men about masculinity, the four men whose stories made the book (Ryan, Gideon, Joseph, Nate), the process of getting men to be vulnerable, the permission structure concept, his first day at UC Berkeley journalism school, the cancer scare he hoped would get him out, the notepad as superpower, the Scotland trip with his dad, the impact of the book on his own friendships, Tom Wolfe, narrative journalism, the literary market and male readers, video games as time thief, Bowling Alone, male loneliness, the hardball league, and getting together in a room.

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