Journals of Spiritual Discovery by spiritualteachers.org

Bart Marshall is both a gifted writer and spiritual teacher.   I’ve known Bart Marshall for many years, but the inspiration for this interview is his article “Ultimate Between-ness” which contains these compelling lines: There are two main things I think are worth studying.  One is how to wake up from this dream called life.  The other … Continue reading "Bart Marshall Interview"

Bart Marshall is both a gifted writer and spiritual teacher.   I’ve known Bart Marshall for many years, but the inspiration for this interview is his article “Ultimate Between-ness” which contains these compelling lines: There are two main things I think are worth studying.  One is how to wake up from this dream called life.  The other … Continue reading "Bart Marshall Interview"

Eshwar Segobind was completely unknown to me before this interview, and I feel fortunate that his name was passed to me through friends in the TAT Foundation.  Eshwar’s spiritual path is remarkable both for its brevity and for the depth of practical insight he manifests.   In less than a year, Eshwar went from a recovery … Continue reading "Eshwar Segobind Interview"

Eshwar Segobind was completely unknown to me before this interview, and I feel fortunate that his name was passed to me through friends in the TAT Foundation.  Eshwar’s spiritual path is remarkable both for its brevity and for the depth of practical insight he manifests.   In less than a year, Eshwar went from a recovery … Continue reading "Eshwar Segobind Interview"

A little holiday gift to you in this end of the year podcast: a guided meditation.  Though I rarely did guided meditation in my younger days, I now see it as skillful practice as well as having the potential to develop rapport when done in a group setting.  A guided meditation is the opportunity to … Continue reading "Guided Meditation 1"

A little holiday gift to you in this end of the year podcast: a guided meditation.  Though I rarely did guided meditation in my younger days, I now see it as skillful practice as well as having the potential to develop rapport when done in a group setting.  A guided meditation is the opportunity to … Continue reading "Guided Meditation 1"

Richard Rose has been one of my 5-star teachers since the inception of spiritualteachers.org.  He passed away in 2005, but his work influences numerous contemporary teachers.  I thought it would be interesting to interview one of his long-time students, Michael Casari, and get a glimpse of life with Richard Rose as well as another person’s … Continue reading "Thoughts on Richard Rose and the Spiritual Life"

Richard Rose has been one of my 5-star teachers since the inception of spiritualteachers.org.  He passed away in 2005, but his work influences numerous contemporary teachers.  I thought it would be interesting to interview one of his long-time students, Michael Casari, and get a glimpse of life with Richard Rose as well as another person’s … Continue reading "Thoughts on Richard Rose and the Spiritual Life"

Most of us, I would venture to say, have at some time or other had a feeling that something was present beyond our traditional senses, something without a name, not specific nor particular, but thoroughly present in a manner inexplicable, very near and very far away, beyond our current ability to explain. ~Pattiann Rogers Pattiann … Continue reading "Pattiann Rogers Interview"

Most of us, I would venture to say, have at some time or other had a feeling that something was present beyond our traditional senses, something without a name, not specific nor particular, but thoroughly present in a manner inexplicable, very near and very far away, beyond our current ability to explain. ~Pattiann Rogers

Pattiann Rogers is most recently the recipient of the John Burroughs Medal for Lifetime Achievement in Nature Poetry, “in recognition of the power and permanence of Rogers’ entire body of work.”  Her first book was The Expectations of Light, published in 1981.  Since then, Pattiann Rogers has published 15 other books and received numerous awards, including a Guggenheim Fellowship and a Rockefeller Foundation residency.

Pattiann Rogers has been called a nature poet, a theological poet, an environment poet, and a spiritual poet.  As you’ll see in our interview, she’s really a poet of existence, and the grand paradoxes of a God who refuses to reveal itself, yet whose presence is felt everywhere.  She’s equally at home in the celebration and the examination of life, and that is reflected in her poetry which is at turns both ecstatic and probing.

This interview begins with Pattiann Rogers reading several of her poems specifically chosen for listeners of the Journals of Spiritual Discovery podcast.

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Selected Links and Notes from this Episode:

Poems read by Pattiann Rogers in this episode: “Achieving Perspective,” “In Addition to Faith, Hope, and Charity,” “Being Accomplished,” “The Background Beyond the Background,” “The Greatest Grandeur,” “Address: The Archaeans, One Cell Creatures,” “Hail, Spirit,” “The Consequences of Death,” “The Possible Suffering of a God During Creation,” “Goddamn Theology,” and “Inside God’s Eye.”

“I hear and behold god in every object, yet understand him not in the least.” – Walt Whitman [0:15]

Part of confronting the mystery of life is questioning. [14:30]

“I wouldn’t be a poet if I didn’t have a few poems about death.” [24:18]

The work of poetry as spiritual practice. [40:00]

The Dream of the Marsh Wren: Writing As Reciprocal Creation by Pattiann Rogers

“When I write poetry I’m singing, when I write prose I’m talking and there’s all the difference in the world in how you can you the language to make the music you need.  And sometimes the music itself can direct you to the words you need.”  [41:20]

Paying attention to how the body reacts to the placement of words [42:28]

“Keats said, ‘the poetry of earth is ceasing never,’ and that’s the music of it I think, and I’ve wanted to express that music.” [50:45]

“One of the goals of poetry in to expand the use of the language.” [53:50]

“The best poetry opens avenues of thought… and make our perceptions and insights deeper than before.” [54:18]

The Jerry Wennstrom Interview [1:03:00]

“The major fault I find with writers – poets – is they don’t understand how hard the work is.” [1:06:45]

On yearning for criticism. [1:10:36]

Pattiann Rogers recommends these two books for a selection of her work: Song of the World Beco