Journey to an ESOP & Beyond

This episode addresses effort the challenges and applicable solutions for a mature ESOP company. Diana Clark and Jason Miller provide insight into including preservation of ESOP knowledge in the organization contemplating changes to leadership.  Other items we discuss include how to look ahead at areas that need to be thought about not only as a mature ESOP but also preparing ahead of time for these issues.  The discussion includes best practices that should be thought about post ESOP issues.  ESOP companies should be focused on the long-term sustainability as companies build out infrastructure the can produce solid results like employee engagement.  Ultimately, it takes work and ongoing focus to stay on top of this just like other areas of the business. 

This episode was inspired by the recent NCEO conference and provides a good overview for those that are new to an ESOP or those who have recently transitioned to an ESOP. The podcast discusses the need to build the employee-ownership concept as a vibrant part of the culture of your company.  As we go through some of these concepts, we will address the audience, frequency, repetition, and plan for ESOP communication.  This can affect each employee-owned company differently depending on where the company is in their development whether that be a new, young, maturing, or mature ESOP.

This episode is extremely timely given the potential changes to estate tax.  Agnes Gregory with Berman Hopkins CPA tax team in Orlando FL and Justin Stemple with Warner Norcross + Judd from Grand Rapids, MI explain how important it is to have an Estate/Gift Tax plan going into an ESOP transaction.  We cover some important elements of Estate planning as we consider the event of an ESOP transaction.  One of the areas of planning is considering the potential lifetime exemptions with other assets.  This gets somewhat clearer as you consider the valuation of a primary asset - your business.  When it comes to estate and gift planning there are a myriad of options and the earlier you start the better.  We also cover who should be helping you do this kind of planning so that you can enjoy your journey to an ESOP.  

This episode highlights ESOP advisors you may run into at the conferences (or really anywhere!)  The topic is to help provide an overview of the ranging roles as it applies to ESOP advisory and how to choose advisors who can best support your personal journey to an ESOP.

 This episode focuses on the role of the ESOP trustee through an interview with Bryce Lenox - an ESOP trustee out of Cincinnati, OH.  Bryce does a great job reviewing the role of an ESOP trustee both on the transaction and ongoing side.   Relating to transaction, Bryce explains the role he plays as a buyer and the steps he takes to conform to the department of labor process agreements.  Once the transaction is complete, he explains his ongoing duties for the retirement plan from a fiduciary standpoint. 

In this podcast episode we use a classic scene from the movie “Pink Panther” which highlights using the “American” French accent to illustrate the strangeness related to an ESOP negotiation.  In ESOP transactions it is important to understand that the purchase price or valuation of shares being sold hinge on the ultimate result of the negotiation with a trustee along with their independent buy-side team.  The strangeness can come from the back and forth with the seller offer/trustee counter offer/seller offer.   

This episode we invite Diana Clark, who specializes as a full-time ESOP communication’s consultant, to provide a framework to understand the power of frequent and effective communication around employee ownership.  If you are brand new to ESOPs or been an employee-owned company for a few years or even many years - the bottom line of communication will improve the bottom line of your business. 

This episode is part 2 of discussing the inside note versus the outside note on an ESOP transaction.  We feature the recently released part 2 of Inside Out - as it is an excellent sequel in the story of how human emotions can play into how we make decisions , in particular how anxiety can cause problems in daily life. The podcast contrasts this to how we deal with the anxiety of the company going into debt for leveraged buyout financing.  The episode focuses on the planning side to provide a sustainable ESOP transaction and helps to provide some terminology for those wanting to better understand and enjoy their journey to an ESOP.

This episode represents the 2nd interview with Joe Hurt of RLH Construction.  Joe discusses some of the challenges and opportunities of an established ESOP.  A few years into their ESOP, RLH Construction has experienced very strong results from the ESOP.  Joe is the CEO of the company and has worked through issues such as leadership transition, retiring a large portion of the initial senior debt, managing bonding issues, as well as a myriad of other specifics.  For Joe and his team, the ESOP has been a tremendously valuable took to strengthen their efforts in the industry and has helped the company reach new heights.

This episode provides clarification to the difference between an inside note and an outside note.  In an ESOP transaction there will be two types of notes created when the transaction occurs.  This episode is part 1 of 2 episodes.  The first part explains the background of the terminology as it relates to why these two types of notes exist.  The majority of this episode deals with the inside note and its use in releasing shares to employees as well as IRS code section 404 and limits applied as well as implications related to related to future repurchase liability.  In addition, this episode covers how the tax benefits get created in the analysis of an ESOP from the structure of the inside note.