Today’s guest is Jim Lee. Jim is a founder and managing partner at Formosa Investing, a multifamily investment firm focused on creating significant passive income to their investors and improving the communities they invest in.  

Starting with a 2 bed/1 bath condo, Jim has built his portfolio to over 600 units in the past 2 years. 

In this episode, Jim shares about his Taiwanese upbringing and "Saver's attitude" to avoid debt, but later discovering debt as a powerful tool in real estate development.

He also talks about some of the benefits of investing in multifamily real estate syndications, including scalability, leverage, cash flow, and tax advantages.

👉 Episode Topics

• [02:00] Meet our guest, Jim Lee
• [03: 46] From Fear to Multifamily Syndication
• [10: 38] Why Multifamily Real Estate Syndication is the Key to Building a Scalable Portfolio
• [ 14:25 ]  From Active to Passive: The Importance of Starting Small in Real Estate Investing
• [17:44 ]   Leveraging Experience and Building Passive Income
• [19:00]   Insights and Myths on Passive Real Estate Investing
• [23:58]    What success looks like for Jim
• [34:36]   Connecting to Jim Lee

👉 Notable Quotes

• "In Asian culture, debt is seen as slavery, and cash as freedom, which is counter to the heavy debt and consumerism culture in America." - Jim Lee
• "When you leverage the investment, you reap the benefits of appreciation on the asset value while only having a small percentage of your own money in the deal." - Jim Lee
• "Multifamily builds wealth much faster." - Jim Lee
• "Culture and personal experiences can significantly impact our views on money, debt, etc. It's like they always have things saved up and it may be in gold, just in case something happens, that fear is always there." Tim Little
• "Most people don't know what syndication is or how to evaluate multifamily properties. Finding the why to push outside of that comfort zone is necessary to take risks and pivot into new opportunities." - Tim Little
• "There's a variety of types of deals even within just multifamily in terms of finding an investment that's right for different types of investors." - Tim Little

👉 Connect with Jim Lee

• LinkedIn:  Jim Lee
• Facebook: @FormosaInvesting 
• Instagram: @FormosaInvesting

👉 Connect with Tim

• Linkedin: Tim Little
• Instagram: @tim_at_zana
• Email: [email protected]
• Visit www.ZANAinvestments.com for more info on Tim and how you can passively invest in multifamily real estate
• Get your Passive Investor's Cheat Sheet FREE

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Today’s guest is Don Spafford. He is a partner at Happy Camper Capital, a private equity firm and operations hub for outdoor hospitality properties.  

He bought his first property, a four plex, in 2017. Then he began to scale into commercial real estate, including ground-up development projects, and joined Happy Camper Capital in 2021 where his team focuses on syndicating RV Resorts.

In this episode, He shared how he started investing in real estate to add to his income and how he went after several opportunities, such as purchasing a four-plex, flipping land, undertaking development projects, and establishing Happy Camper Capital.

He also talks about his investment strategies, such as building new RV resorts instead of small multifamily buildings and holding onto properties for long-term benefits.

👉 Episode Topics

• [00:55] Meet our guest, Don Spafford 
• [01: 35] Unplanned Real Estate Journey: From 10% Down Payment to Happy Camp Capital
• [06: 30] Finding Low Down Payment Mortgage Options: Don’s Personal Story
• [ 9:24 ]  How House Hacking works
• [11:15 ]   Investing for the Long Term: From 529s to RV Resorts
• [16:52]   Steps to follow for those who aspire to be an active investor
• [21:11]    The Difference between RV resort deal versus commercial multifamily?
• [30:36]  Creating a Management Company for Campgrounds: A Deep Dive into the Operations of Beyond Camping
• [34:24]  What success looks like for Don
• [38:51]   Connecting to Don Spafford

👉 Notable Quotes

• "I kind of realized that getting to that point of where I needed to get to for that passive income goal I was trying to reach, it was still gonna take a long time just buying fourplexes." - [Don Spafford]
• "My goal was cash flow. if it didn't have cash flow, I wasn't gonna buy it. -[Don Spafford]
• “It's important to build a network, build relationships, and build trust with people who are in the industry that you're interested in." -[Tim Little]
•  "If you can make house hacking work, do it. It's the best way to get started with as little money as possible, start building up wealth, and essentially save your expenses." -[Don Spafford]
• "I've taught my children that when they're ready to buy a house, they definitely need to look into doing house hacking first and start them off on a better path than I had for sure." -[Don Spafford]

👉Connect with Don Spafford

• LinkedIn:  Don Spafford
• Website: https://happycampercapital.com/
•  Schedule with Don: https://happycampercapital.com/don-spafford/

👉 Connect with Tim

• Linkedin: Tim Little
• Instagram: @tim_at_zana
• Email: [email protected]
• Visit www.ZANAinvestments.com for more info on Tim and how you can passively invest in multifamily real estate
• Get your Passive Investor's Cheat Sheet FREE

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Today’s guest is Trevor Oldham, Trevor is the Founder and CEO of Podcasting You, the leading podcast booking agency for real estate investors.  

Trevor has worked with a variety of real estate professionals to help raise capital, generate more exposure, and increase their networking opportunities.

In this episode, Trevor talked about the viability of new podcasts and whether there are already too many. In addition, he added that success requires a lot of time and effort, quality content, consistency, promotion, and learning from guests.

Trevor also discusses his background in passive real estate investing, how he got started with it through research and networking, and how he transitioned from equity-based assets like self-storage and multifamily to them in order to generate monthly passive income.

👉 Episode Topics

• [01:27] Meet our guest, Trevor Oldham
• [03: 48] Finding Passion and Success through Specialization: A Podcaster's Journey to Focusing on Real Estate
• [07: 42] Unlocking the Full Potential of Podcasting: Insider Tips and Tricks
• [ 13:30 ] Maximizing Your Real Estate Exposure: The Benefits and Drawbacks of Starting a Podcast or Being a Guest
• [17:36 ]  From Zero to High-Profile Guests: How to Land Big Names on Your Podcast
• [19:53] The Pros and Cons of Paying for High Profile Guests and the Most Effective Way to Grow Your Podcast
• [24:22] The Truth About Podcast Reviews: Are They a Reliable Metric for Success?
• [27:40] Benefits of Passive Real Estate Investing: Trevor’s experience.
• [40:45 ] What Success means to Trevor
• [41:45] Connecting to Trevor Oldham

👉 Notable Quotes

• "Make sure you're not overly promotional, and just different things like that are really gonna allow you to stand out." -[Trevor Oldham]
• "The biggest benefit that I found starting my own podcast and more so than getting my name out there was just being able to connect with the people on the podcast, the guests that I was having on."-[Trevor Oldham]
• "Being a podcast host gives you more control, but requires more time. Being a guest allows you to leverage other people's audiences, but limits your control." -[Trevor Oldham]
• "Starting your own podcast is best for newcomers; being a guest works for experienced professionals."-[Trevor Oldham]
• I've found that I enjoy Podcasting more than I expected to. So that's a plus because no one's gonna stick with it if they don't like it. [Tim Little]

👉 Connect with Trevor Oldham

• LinkedIn: Trevor Oldham
• Website: podcastingyou.com/
• Email: [email protected]

👉 Connect with Tim

• Linkedin: Tim Little
• Instagram: @tim_at_zana
• Email: [email protected]
• Visit www.ZANAinvestments.com for more info on Tim and how you can passively invest in multifamily real estate
• Get your Passive Investor's Cheat Sheet FREE

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Today’s guest is Dylan Clark, Dylan is the CEO of Dylan Clark Consulting, as well as a fund manager and chief financial officer for Abundance Asset Management.

His goal in the financial industry is to help as many people as he can break out of the middle class and achieve their dreams.

In this episode, Dylan stated that he founded his business in order to assist novice syndicators and/or fund managers in getting off to a strong start.

He also talked about maintaining a balance while acting as a real estate syndication mediator and the value of a good reputation.

👉 Episode Topics

• [01:39] Meet our guest, Dylan Clark
• [03: 18] They started an online education company and grew to over 10,000 members 
• [4: 04] Passed the Series 65 exam and became an (RIA) Registered Investment Advisor
• [ 7:53 ] Started a Company to Help New Syndicators and Fund Managers Get Off the Ground
• [16:06 ]  Costs and Requirements for Obtaining and Maintaining Series 65 License
• [20:26] 506B, 506C Explained
• [25:05] The Role of an Objective Intermediary in Real Estate Syndication
• [37:52] What success looks like for Dylan
• [38:51] Connecting to Dylan Clark

👉 Notable Quotes

• "The best way for those folks who are new to syndication before is to partner up with someone else. Someone who is more experienced " - [Dylan Clark]
• "You could have a mediocre track record with a great reputation and you'll be, outperform the individual with a great track record but a bad reputation" -[Dylan Clark]
• “I feel like so many people get drawn into flashy things and flashy words without actually looking into the details”-[Dylan Clark]
•  “You're able to make a good living for yourself by helping other people succeed.” -[Tim Little]

👉 Connect with Dylan Clark

• LinkedIn:  Dylan Clark
• Meeting: https://calendly.com/aamdylan/30min

👉 Connect with Tim

• Linkedin: Tim Little
• Instagram: @tim_at_zana
• Email: [email protected]
• Visit www.ZANAinvestments.com for more info on Tim and how you can passively invest in multifamily real estate
• Get your Passive Investor's Cheat Sheet FREE

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Today’s guest is George Roberts lll. George is the founder of Walnut Grove Homes, an upscale residential construction company based in Troy, Michigan which reached seven-figure status in 2021, and a Principal at Horizon Multifamily. 

He has over 300 units as an active multifamily investor, with additional passive investments in over 500 multifamily units and diverse assets such as carwashes, early-stage companies, and a drug rehab facility. 

He brings a unique background of both scientific expertise and entrepreneurial success to his real estate investments.

In this episode, George shared how a former bioscientist turned real estate investor, focusing on value-add multifamily properties. He learned the importance of managing properties as a business and seeks professional property management for a successful passive income stream.

He also discussed the importance of understanding macroeconomics and diversifying one's portfolio in real estate investing and emphasized the value of taking a wide-lens view and studying history and geography in order to prepare for potential black swan events.

👉 Episode Topics

• [01:05] Meet our guest, George Roberts III
• [02: 08] From Bioscientist to Accidental Landlord to Successful Real Estate Investor
• [2: 32] Building a Construction Company and Value-Add Multifamily Investments
• [ 9:25] The spark of entrepreneurialism.
• [11:11]  Real Estate Syndication Explained
• [16:50] Diversification and Macroeconomic Understanding
• [21:52] Leveraging Bioscience and Data Science Skills in Commercial Real Estate
• [23:30] Networking for Success in Apartment Investment
• [28:40] What success looks like for George
• [29:20] Connecting to George Roberts

👉Notable Quotes

• "Everybody's a syndicator. Everybody's in multifamily, it is a pretty small fishbowl, but it's growing fast and we know that we can't really outgrow the dimensions of the fishbowl. " - [George Roberts]
• "Wow! Once you set it up, it can be pretty passive." -[George Roberts]
•  We have to be careful never to oversell any investment -[Tim Little]
• "So now let's run it like a business this time and let's do it at scale" - [George Roberts]
• "One of the best ways that we can add to someone is to connect them with the right people and be known."  -[Tim Little]
• “Real estate syndication is an awesome opportunity.” [George Roberts]

👉Connect with George Roberts

• Website:  horizonmultifamily.com
• LinkedIn:  George Roberts lll
• Email: [email protected]

👉 Resources:

• The Intelligent Investor book by Benjamin Graham:   

👉 Connect with Tim

• Linkedin: Tim Little
• Instagram: @tim_at_zana
• Email: [email protected]
• Visit www.ZANAinvestments.com for more info on Tim and how you can passively invest in multifamily real estate
• Get your Passive Investor's Cheat Sheet FREE

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Today’s guest is Jeff Greenberg,  Jeff is the President and CEO of Synergetic Investment Group. Through SIG Wealth Fund, Jeff provides the opportunity for high net worth individuals to passively invest in Commercial Real Estate with best in class Commercial Deal Syndicators. Jeff uses his extensive experience and network to help investors to discover and invest in high quality alternative investments.

Jeff has been involved in projects worth nearly $150 million consisting of over 2000 units and has been involved with all types of assets from Student Housing to short term rentals, and Market Rate MF properties.

In this episode, Jeff discusses the key distinction between a joint venture and a syndication, the degree of control and participation of the partners. 

Additionally, He shares how he manages a private equity fund that is flexible and diversified and that gives investors the ability to choose opportunities, read PPMs, and make the final investment decision while the fund is managed by him to achieve exceptional diversification and choice for passive investors.

👉 Episode Topics

• [01:49] Meet our guest, Jeff Greenberg
• [05:00] The Difference Between Joint Ventures and Syndications
• [07:03] Rights and Responsibilities of Limited Partners in a Syndication.
• [08:20] The Importance of Reviewing the PPM and Operating Agreement in a Syndication
• [09:30] The Importance of Learning in Real Estate Investment
• [13:55] The Benefits of Being a Passive Investor
• [15:50] How he runs a diversified, customizable private equity fund.
• [21:30] Investing in Real Estate: Criteria and Due Diligence
• [31:23] What success looks like for Jeff
• [32:54] Connecting to Jeff Greenberg

👉 Notable Quotes

"When you come in as a passive investor, you're now an investor. You have a right to ask a lot of questions" - [Jeff Greenberg]

"You've got a ticket to the door when you know when you're investing" -[Jeff Greenberg]

" Learning about other people and who you can work with and who you wanna work with and formatting, some kind of team is extremely important. Very important in this business." -[Jeff Greenberg]

"What if I can earn money while I'm learning? And so, you know, That's why I call that, earn while you learn because I was able to ask all the questions" - [Tim Little]

"Getting in on that one deal as a general partner will give you the track record that you need to get started and potentially or likely get onto other deals in the future."  -[Tim Little]

👉 Connect with Jeff Greenberg

• Website:  synergeticig.com
• LinkedIn:  Jeff Greenberg
• Email: [email protected]

👉 Connect with Tim

• Linkedin: Tim Little
• Instagram: @tim_at_zana
• Email: [email protected]
• Visit www.ZANAinvestments.com for more info on Tim and how you can passively invest in multifamily real estate
• Get your Passive Investor's Cheat Sheet FREE

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Today’s guest is Bryan Escudero, Bryan is the President and CEO of First Gen Foundations. A company dedicated to educating first generation investors like himself on real estate as an investment vehicle that can lead to generational wealth. 

Bringing two decades of project management experience, he and his partner have grown their portfolio from 0 to 55 doors and $0 to over $8.5M in assets under management, all in under a year!

In this episode, Bryan discusses how First Gen Foundations started, which aims to educate and empower individuals to take control of their financial future through real estate investing. They focus on multifamily properties and stress the importance of education and overcoming fear when it comes to investing. 

He also talks about his own experience juggling a profession and going to school, the value of being aware of the commitment and dangers associated with starting anything new, and the necessity of open communication.

Episode Topics

• [01:34] Meet our guest, Bryan Escudero
• [04:11] From Fear to Wealth Creation: One Immigrant's Journey into Real Estate and Helping Others
• [09:00] Building Community through Real Estate: The Founding Principles of First Gen Foundations
• [11:50] Transitioning from a Consumer to an Investor: Helping First Gen Investors Overcome Fear and Find Alternative Investments 
• [15:15] From Educating himself to Building a Thriving Real Estate Investment Business: A Journey of Overcoming Fear and Helping Others
• [20:00] How His Career and Education Led to a Successful Real Estate Venture
• [22:30] Shaking off Fear and Building Generational Wealth: His Journey into Real Estate Syndications
• [27:30] Empowering Moderately Successful Professionals to Build Wealth through Multifamily Real Estate Investment
• [31:18] What success looks like for Bryan
• [35:05] Connecting to Bryan Escudero

Notable Quotes

• "When you shake off the fear, when you're able to make decisions with imperfect information, you'll be really surprised at what you can do." -[Bryan Escudero]
• "I believe education is a good fighter of fear." -[Bryan Escudero]
• "Any investment has risk, but there's also reward there" - [Tim Little]
• "Life is not fair. We can either let ourselves be pushed back into a corner by that or really lean into it. "  -[Bryan Escudero]
• "You can look at it historically and you know real estate. It's created 90% of the millionaires in this country." -[Bryan Escudero]
• "You are a steward of other people's money, and that is a huge responsibility." [Tim Little]

Connect with Bryan:

• Website: https://www.firstgenfoundations.com/
• LinkedIn:  Bryan Escudero
• Email: [email protected]

👉 Connect with Tim

• Linkedin: Tim Little
• Instagram: @tim_at_zana
• Email: [email protected]
• Visit www.ZANAinvestments.com for more info on Tim and how you can passively invest in multifamily real estate
• Get your Passive Investor's Cheat Sheet FREE

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This episode’s guest is Madhavi Jain.  She has 16+ years of experience in the IT industry, much of it in top 5 consulting firms. Her excellent analytical skills, project management experience, and out-of-the-box thinking lays a solid foundation for evaluating and reviewing investment opportunities.

She talked about the three-pronged strategy for generating passive income, starting with generating income, lowering tax obligations, and boosting net worth. She also breaks down infinity banking and why we should be doing it.

She also discusses her mission of changing the financial trajectory of thousands of more families one family at a time.

Episode Topics

• [02:24] Meet our guest, Madhavi Jain
• [04:11] She left her job and started a reverse engineering journey into the real estate world.
• [07:18] She discovered that syndication is the key to unlocking genuinely passive income. 
• [08:50] She formed “Think Outside the Stocks.” to bring strategies she learned by creating a community, sharing with them, and sharing how to do it correctly. 
• [12:25] The threefold approach to creating passive income starts with making passive income, reducing tax liability, and increasing net worth.
• [14:45] What is infinite banking, and why should we consider it?
• [19:14] Three common objections to the infinite banking system.
• [26:28] Passion and responsibility to educate others about the best path to financial freedom.
• [39:33] What success looks like for Madhavi.  
• [40:57] Connecting to Madhavi Jain.

Notable Quotes

• "The syndication being that key to unlock that truly passive income. At that point, I was looking for something passive. I was mind blown." - [Madhavi Jain]
• "The time to take that action is not tomorrow, not today. The time to take action is now. So make that small big step." - [Madhavi Jain]
• "It is our responsibility to educate. If we find something that can help people, it doesn't matter whether it's infinity banking or passively investing in multifamily syndications." - [Tim Little]
• "I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just trying to let you know, you could have your money growing in something that provides better returns that is more recession-resistant."  [Tim little]
• "I started dwelling into real estate because of course, 90% of people have become millionaires through real estate." - [Madhavi Jain]

Connect with Madhavi:

• Website: https://thinkoutsidethestocks.com/
• LinkedIn:  Madhavi Jain
• Email: [email protected]

Resources: Madhavi's Free Ebook: https://thinkoutsidethestocks.com/passive/

👉 Connect with Tim

• Linkedin: Tim Little
• Instagram: @tim_at_zana
• Email: [email protected]
• Visit www.ZANAinvestments.com for more info on Tim and how you can passively invest in multifamily real estate
• Get your Passive Investor's Cheat Sheet FREE

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Today’s guest is Vessi Kapoulian, an owner of DBA Capital Group with over 14 years of expertise in commercial loans and four years in company management, sales, and marketing.

Vessi began her real estate career in 2017, and she currently manages a portfolio of six properties with a combined total of 161 doors across Florida, Tennessee, and Georgia. 

Not only does she actively invest in commercial multifamily, but she also has 100% free and clear residential properties, AND passively invests in multifamily deals. I'm going to call that the real estate cash flow TRIFECTA. 

In this episode, Vessi discusses her motivation for investing in real estate, as well as how she has leveraged her corporate background to scale her multifamily business.

She also shared her thoughts on the present lending climate and where it might be headed.

Episode Topics

• [01:36] Meet our guest, Vessi Kapoulian.
• [02:42] She made her first investment in real estate to create a small retirement nest egg and diversify away from the stock market.
• [03:31] How she scales her professional experiences to commercial real estate, specifically Multifamily, and achieve what she has now.
• [06:25] Finding excellent and competent property management for her residential units.
• [09:29] How the whole educational system set up and trained the mindset of most people.
• [12:50] What does DBA Capital Group stand for, and what are its values?
• [15:35] A clear understanding of your “why”. What do you want to do, and why do it?
• [17:211] Vessi’s take on the current lending environment and what to expect on rates.
• [25:05] What challenges did she face in transitioning from residential to commercial multifamily?
• [34:56] Connect with Vessi Kapoulian.

Notable Quotes

• "One regret I have is not starting sooner. I thought of something other than real estate as a great investment vehicle and an income stream that could even replace W2 jobs. " - [Vessi Kapoulian]
• "The beautiful thing about real estate as an asset class is that you can diversify  even within real estate, whether it's mobile homes, multifamily, or storage." - [Tim Little]
• "You learn most from experience. So I encourage people to take action." - [Vessi Kapoulian]
• "Appreciate every day, view that as an opportunity, and have a positive impact because you could be gone tomorrow." - [Tim Little]

Connect with Vessi Kapoulian

• Website: dbacapitalgroup.com
• LinkedIn:  Vessi Kapoulian

Resources

• Vessi's Free Ebook:

👉 Connect with Tim

• Linkedin: Tim Little
• Instagram: @tim_at_zana
• Email: [email protected]
• Visit www.ZANAinvestments.com for more info on Tim and how you can passively invest in multifamily real estate
• Get your Passive Investor's Cheat Sheet FREE

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This podcast is aimed at equipping listeners with substantial knowledge in multifamily real estate investing, sharing inspiring experiences from experts well-versed in the different stages of wealth creation through real estate. Meet our host, the Founder, and CEO of ZANA Investments, Tim Little.

In this episode, Paul Winterowd outlines the benefits of dealing with a mortgage broker versus working directly with a bank.

While he has been a General Partner as well, Paul discusses more his extensive experience as a  passive investor and how his job as a mortgage broker has made him better at picking sponsors and deals.

Episode Topics

[01:37] Meet today's guest, Paul Winterowd.

[02:43] How Paul started as a mortgage broker and got into intrigue with multifamily real estate.

[06:23] Continuing his work as a mortgage broker helps to build his network and get exposure to great syndicators.

[10:03] Real estate's primary selling points - Lack of volatility.

[11:58] Bridge loans and other types of lending and their interest rates.

[11:44] Paul's thought on seller financing for real estate. 

[20:35] One of the beauties of real estate is it has its own merits and investing in a business plan.

[22:03] What does it look like when you are investing in a business plan of multifamily real estate?

[27:49] What are the benefits of using a mortgage broker?

[30:43] What is one red flag every investor should look out for? 

[38:46] What does success look like for Paul?

Notable Quotes

• " The tortoise versus the hare story comes to mind. The commercial real estate's more the tortoise but ends up winning the race in the end. "- [Paul Winterowd]
• "Real estate's lack of volatility like the volatility that you do see in the stock market, I think it's one of the primary selling points" - [Tim Little]
• "I hold to the premise of time in the market versus timing the market."  [Paul Winterowd.]
• "I think there are basically opportunities in every market, be they good markets, bad markets, and another important point is the matter of perspective when it comes to being a passive investor.” [Tim Little]

Connect with Paul Winterowd

• Website: stacksource.com
• LinkedIn:  Paul Winterowd
• Email: [email protected]
• Social media: @StackSource

👉 Connect with Tim

• Linkedin: Tim Little
• Instagram: @tim_at_zana
• Email: [email protected]
• Visit www.ZANAinvestments.com for more info on Tim and how you can passively invest in multifamily real estate
• Get your Passive Investor's Cheat Sheet FREE

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