For this episode of Trump's Trials, NPR's Mary Louise Kelly speaks with correspondent Greg Allen.

Judge Aileen Cannon held a pre-trial hearing where Trump's defense team argued two motions to dismiss charges against the former president in the classified documents case. Judge Cannon quickly denied one of the motions but has yet to rule on the other. During the hearing she appeared skeptical of both arguments presented by the Trump team.

Topics include:
- Presidential Records Act
- Espionage Act
- Trump in attendance

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