Former prime minister Julia Gillard deep dives into her new book with Indira Naidoo. Not Now, Not Ever celebrates 10 years since Julia clapped back at misogyny with a speech in Parliament that continues to echo through the years. What inspired her words? What progress has been made since then? And what does future look like for the next generation of female leaders? 

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