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Melbourne novelist Tobe Ellen joins me for a few pints at the pub, where we discuss Australian writer Rod Jones' Julia Paradise. It's a highly evocative novel of psychosexual manipulation set in a dreamy 1920s expat Shanghai. Eroticism, Freudian psychoanalysis, how Australian writers write about other countries and how the smart ones defamiliarize their own, and more.

Buy Rod Jones' novel here: https://tinyurl.com/4y5kue5m

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