I niende afsnit af podcasten besøger Louise Klinke Øhrstrøm teolog og forfatter Elisabeth Engell Jessen for at tale med hende om Julian af Norwichs niende vision og om digteren og billedkunstneren William Blake. Elisabeth er præst i Nørre Søby og har tidligere skrevet Phd om William Blake (1757 -1827), som hun stadig er meget optaget af. Hun har desuden skrevet digtsamlingen Navnebogen (Eksistensen, 2018).

Undervejs sammenligner Elisabeth Engell Jessen Julians niende vision med en slags himmelvision, som Blake fik, da han var i Felpham i 1800 og skrev i digtform til sin ven, Mr Thomas Butt. Herunder gengivet fra http://erdman.blakearchive.org/

To my Friend Butts I write

My first Vision of Light

On the yellow sands sitting

The Sun was Emitting

His Glorious beams

From Heavens high Streams

Over Sea over Land

My Eyes did Expand

Into regions of air

Away from all Care

Into regions of fire

Remote from Desire

The Light of the Morning

Heavens Mountains adorning

In particles bright

The jewels of Light

Distinct shone & clear—

Amazd & in fear

I each particle gazed

Astonishd Amazed

For each was a Man

Human formd. Swift I ran

For they beckond to me

Remote by the Sea

Saying. Each grain of Sand

Every Stone on the Land

Each rock & each hill

Each fountain & rill

Each herb & each tree

Mountain hill Earth & Sea

Cloud Meteor & Star

Are Men Seen Afar

I stood in the Streams

Of Heavens bright beams

And Saw Felpham sweet

Beneath my bright feet

In soft Female charms

And in her fair arms

My Shadow I knew

And my wifes shadow too

And My Sister & Friend.

We like Infants descend

In our Shadows on Earth

Like a weak mortal birth

My Eyes more & more

Like a Sea without shore

Continue Expanding

The Heavens commanding

Till the jewels of Light

Heavenly Men beaming bright

Appeard as One Man

Who Complacent began

My limbs to infold

In his beams of bright gold

Like dross purgd away

All my mire & my clay

Soft consumd in delight

In his bosom sun bright

I remaind. Soft he smild

And I heard his voice Mild60

Saying This is My Fold

O thou Ram hornd with gold

Who awakest from sleep

On the sides of the Deep

On the Mountains around

The roarings resound

Of the lion & wolf

The loud sea & deep gulf

These are guards of My Fold

O thou Ram hornd with gold

And the voice faded mild

I remaind as a Child

All I ever had known

Before me bright Shone

I saw you & your wife

By the fountains of Life

Such the Vision to me

Appeard on the Sea

LIDT OM JULIAN AF NORWICH:'

 Julian af Norwich levede som rekluse (en slags eneboer) i en celle i Sct. Julian’s Church i Norwich i England i slutningen af 1300-tallet. Hun er opkaldt efter kirken, fordi man ikke kender hendes rigtige navn. Til gengæld har man masser af tekst fra hendes hånd og de to versioner af Showing of love (Kærlighedens åbenbaring, da., Boedal 2010) er de første engelske tekster, man med sikkerhed ved er skrevet af en kvinde. Teksterne handler om de seksten visioner, Julian fik i 1373 og har vakt interesse både hos historikere, teologer, psykologer, filosoffer og forfattere. Louise Klinke Øhrstrøm står bag den første danske oversættelse af teksterne og boede i 2011-13 i Norwich for at skrive Phd om Julian. I podcasten JULIAN tager Louise i hvert afsnit udgangspunkt i en af Julian af Norwichs visioner sammen med en gæst.