In this Podcast, Julian and Tim discuss the challenges and benefits of diverse mindsets in hiring great data talent. He emphasizes that diverse experiences can lead to more effective problem solving and reduce biases within data teams. Julian explains their approach to recruitment, including the importance of apprenticeships, internal lateral moves, and unconventional backgrounds. The conversation also covers leveraging generative AI for recruitment processes, ensuring fairness and transparency, and the potential of expanding traditional definitions of diversity to include diverse experiences and mindsets.