Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder explore the fascinating world of psychic research and paranormal investigations in this in-depth examination of consciousness studies. The authors discuss their extensive research into psychic phenomena, including remote viewing, telepathy, and precognition, drawing from both Western scientific approaches and Eastern mystical traditions. They examine the work of researchers like Bratislav Kafka, a Czechoslovakian sculptor and master hypnotist who trained psychics to observe the dying process and theorized about "soul fluid" withdrawing from the body before death. The conversation covers various psychic abilities and how they might be developed or enhanced through training and practice. Ostrander and Schroeder share insights from their investigations into government and military interest in psychic phenomena, including programs designed to weaponize or utilize paranormal abilities for intelligence gathering. The discussion touches on the philosophical implications of psychic abilities and what they suggest about the nature of consciousness and reality. Their research spans decades and includes work with scientists, psychics, and researchers worldwide. The program provides a scholarly approach to paranormal research, examining both the potential and limitations of psychic phenomena while maintaining scientific rigor in evaluating claims and evidence.