In this conversation, the guys discuss the evolving landscape of journalism, emphasizing the critical role of copy editors and the decline of factual reporting. They delve into the implications of misinformation in political discourse, particularly in the context of recent statements made by political figures. The discussion also covers legal challenges against executive orders, the future of executive power, and the necessity of civic education to foster informed citizenship. Additionally, they address the importance of media accountability in the face of government propaganda.

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