In this week’s episode, Jamie is joined by abstract artist David Kirkman for an honest conversation about creativity, neurodivergence and what it’s really like to build a career in the arts today.

David shares his journey into abstract painting, how ADHD and autism have shaped both his work and the way he sees the world, and the realities of trying to sustain a creative career.

David opens up about:

🎨 Finding his artistic style and creative voice

🧠 The impact of ADHD and autism on creativity

📱 Using social media to build an audience

💸 The realities of making a living through art

🖼️ Galleries, commissions and building relationships

🎭 Mental health, creative pressure and self-expression

💬 His advice for aspiring artists

A thoughtful and honest chat about creativity, identity and learning to trust your own process.

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This week’s episode is sponsored by rad Scotland.

rad Scotland

is a paid TV traineeship helping people from underrepresented backgrounds break into the Scottish TV industry through placements, training and mentoring.

Applications close Wednesday 3rd June at 5pm: https://trcmedia.org/training/rad-scotland/

🎙️ EP.191 of Just Get A Real Job 🎧

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In this week’s episode, Jamie is joined by poet Robbie Hood to talk about what it actually looks like to build a creative career right now.

From starting out at open mics to finding an audience online, Robbie shares his journey into poetry and how social media has helped him get his work seen by a wider audience.

Robbie opens up about:

🎤 Finding your voice as a poet

📱 Social media and going viral

💸 The realities of trying to make a living creatively

🧠 Staying authentic in a crowded space

🏠 How class still shapes access to the arts and creative opportunities

📲 Being labelled an ‘Instagram poet’ and the complexity that comes with it.

The conversation also explores the pressures of the industry today, navigating political themes in your work, and much more. 

An honest chat about creativity, visibility and what it takes to keep going.

🎙️ EP.190 of Just Get A Real Job 🎧

Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube 

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In this week’s episode, Jamie is joined by acting agent Ruth Hollyman, founder of Strange Town Agency, to talk about what it actually means to represent actors and build a career on the other side of the industry.

Based in Edinburgh, Strange Town Agency represents some of the most exciting acting talent emerging from Scotland, with clients working across film, TV and theatre in the UK and internationally. The agency has strong links with casting directors and companies across the UK and the US, and works with standout talent including Lewis Gribben.

Ruth launched the agency in 2011 alongside Strange Town Theatre Company, which she co-founded in 2008 to create opportunities for young people to develop their creative skills.

Ruth opens up about:

🎭 What an acting agent actually does day-to-day

🎬 How she built Strange Town Agency from the ground up

🌍 Her early career as a theatre maker, including living and working in Japan

🤝 The reality of the actor-agent relationship

🎯 What she looks for in new talent

📉 The current state of the industry and how it’s changing

🧠 The challenges (and rewards) of working in talent representation

A really insightful chat for actors, creatives, and anyone curious about how careers in the industry actually come together.

🎙️ EP.189 of Just Get A Real Job 🎧

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In this week’s episode, Jamie is joined by poet Luke Wright to talk about what it actually means to build a career as a full-time poet.

Luke has been writing and performing poetry for over 25 years, taking his work to theatres, festivals and pubs across the world. He’s created fifteen solo shows, three plays, and published various collections.

Luke opens up about:

🎤 Building a long-term career as a working poet

✍️ His approach to writing

🌍 Finding your voice as a poet

🎭 How he manages his own tours

📱 How poetry is evolving in the digital age

🧠 Learning to embrace both the good and the difficult parts of the job

📚 Touring with the likes of John Cooper Clarke and Martin Nuwell

Luke also shares two poems in this episode, including Later Life Lesson and Gene Pool, and reflects on his latest poetry collection Later Life Letter and his upcoming tour. It was great to have Luke on the show.

🎙️ EP.188 of Just Get A Real Job 🎧

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Later Life Letterhttps://www.lukewright.co.uk/later-life-letter-1

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Jamie is joined by Claire Duffy and Maureen Hascoet live from the HB Film Festival for an honest conversation about the state of Scotland’s screen industry and what it really takes to build work from the ground up right now.

Claire and Maureen open up about:

🎬 Building creative careers outside traditional media pathways🌱 Why grassroots movements and community-led initiatives matter more than ever🧠 The mindset shifts that can hold creatives back from putting work out🤝 Creating opportunities through collaboration rather than permission🏗️ The realities of funding, access and sustainability in the current industry📣 Why Maureen founded the Scottish Screenwriters Festival and why Claire started the Glasgow Telly Festival🔍 Where the gaps still exist and what needs to change

A really open conversation about what the industry can learn from those building things at a grassroots level.

It was a genuine pleasure to welcome both Claire and Maureen on the show.

A massive thank you to the team at IRIS for filming this episode, with a special shoutout to Abbie and Conor, and to Conor Mecham for his editing support on this week’s episode.

Recorded live on Sunday 5th October.

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In the first episode of 2026, Jamie is joined by writer, executive producer and founder of MsMono, Karla Williams Posiuniene, for an honest conversation about taking control of your creative career and what it’s really like being a writer in a changing media landscape.

Karla opened up about:

🎬 Breaking into the industry as a writer

🎭 Why she chose to part ways with her agent and how that decision served her better

🏗️ Building her own production company, MsMono

📚 The biggest lessons she’s learned in her career so far

📺 Writing for Grantchester

🔄 What she wishes she’d known when she first started out

📉 How the industry is changing fast

📺 The types of shows she’d love to see more of on screen

A really honest conversation about resilience, ownership, and building a creative career on your own terms.

Well worth a listen, particularly if you’re working in TV or film right now.

🔍 Follow Karla & explore her work

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cue.karla

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karla-williams-piuniene-3a057238/

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In this year’s Christmas and New Year episode, Jamie is joined by returning guest Ashley Dick for a reflective look back on the past year.

Ash opened up about:

🎬 How she has grown her production company and channel, Cinora
💸 The realities of crowdfunding a film
📈 Building an online audience without burning out
🎥 Reflections on some of the best Scottish films of 2025
🌱 The lessons learened this year
🔄 The changing media landscape for creators
🔮 Looking ahead to 2026 and more

A lovely end-of-year conversation about persistence, community, and making things happen at your own pace.

Happy New Year to all our listeners and thank you for all the support you have given us in 2025 🎧

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This week, Jamie sits down with Hutch.on.Film for a really interesting conversation. Hutch is leading the charge in helping a new generation of indie filmmakers find and build an audience.

Having worked across a number of projects in Hollywood including as an Executive Producer on the Emmy-nominated RZR . Hutch has now built an online community of filmmakers and grown a huge audience through his content.

We chat about everything from:
• 🎥 Hutch’s journey into the film industry
• 🌍 Why the industry is struggling and why we all need to adapt
• 🎯 Why personal branding matters more than ever
• 🎬 What Hutch learned working in both the US and UK film and TV industries
• 📱 How he uses social media to reach audiences and how you can too.
• 🌱 How indie filmmakers and creatives can thrive in a shifting landscape

Such a good chat for anyone trying to build a creative career right now and really instresting to get a diffrent perspective on the current state of the industry🎬✨

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Hutch.On.FIlmFilm Insider is the online community for independent film professionals to network, collaborate and help bring their projects to market. Link here: https://whop.com/checkout/6CW6iPT6pHf1kX5i81-CPXE-6VEY-wChU-HQO38BV5TN7l/

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This week, Jamie welcomes Ian Murray, the UK’s Minister for Creative Industries, for an open and honest conversation about the state of the creative sector and what the Department for Culture, Media and Sport is doing to help more young people get into creative careers.

Ian shares how his own upbringing shaped his understanding of accessibility in the arts, and why it still feels so difficult for people from working class or under-represented backgrounds to break into creative work.

Ian spoke about:

🎨 The realities facing freelancers and why so many feel shut out of the industry

🌱 Discover Creative Careers, the government’s campaign to demystify routes into creative jobs 🎬 The importance of freelancers to the creative economy and what the government is doing to support them 🏠 Why class is still such a barrier for many people trying to forge a creative career 📈 The importance of the BBC and why placing it on a sustainable footing matters 🛠️ The wider mission to make the creative industries more accessible, transparent, and sustainable

It was a pleasure to welcome a sitting government minister onto the podcast, hear more about the work DCMS is doing, and have such open and honest discussions about the challenges and opportunities across the sector.

🎮 Discover Creative Careers – Campaign Information

The Discover! Creative Careers Campaign aims to make creative careers more accessible to young people from under-represented backgrounds, highlighting the breadth of opportunities in the creative industries and how today’s skills and hobbies can be turned into meaningful, sustainable careers.

📖 No matter your background or education, there are affordable and accessible routes into the sector — from apprenticeships and work experience to on-the-job training.

🧑‍💻 To explore creative and non-creative roles across the industry, visit the Discover! Creative Careers Finder Tool: https://discovercreative.careers/explore/

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This week, Jamie sits down once again with comedian and writer Kate Hammer for a funny, honest and wide-ranging chat about navigating life as a freelancer in 2025. Since she was last on the podcast, Kate has gone full-time as a stand-up comic and writer and is now literally a government-approved comedian on a global talent visa.

Kate spoke about:
🎤 Making the jump into stand-up and building a career on your own terms
💸 The financial pressures and uncertainties of freelance life
🤝 Why community and collaboration matter so much in comedy
🧠 Perfectionism, burnout and trying to keep going in a tough industry
📑 Her time working on River City, moving into screenwriting, and creating a comedy sketch group
✈️ And her unforgettable recent airport saga

A brilliant episode packed with laughs, honesty and a relatability every creative will connect with.

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Kate Hammer:

Instagram:
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Link to all Kate's upcoming shows
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