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Topic: Maritime Law, U.S. Military Actions, and Global Consequences

Context:Admiral Michael Franken, retired U.S. Navy, joined us Monday to discuss recent reports of small vessels being blown up in the Caribbean. Franken, a naval veteran with decades of service and deep expertise in maritime law, interdiction policy, and international military protocols, provided historical and legal insight into what’s happening—and what it could mean.

Franken’s Background and Maritime Expertise

* Served for decades in the U.S. Navy, including as a Commodore commanding 24 ships and 4 submarines.

* Authored the 2003 “Weapons of Mass Destruction Maritime Interdiction Executive Order” under Secretary Rumsfeld, coordinating with John Bolton and multiple U.S. agencies.

* Has firsthand experience enforcing maritime law and interdicting over 700 vessels suspected of WMD transport in the Middle East.

On the Legality of the Boat Attacks

* U.S. is not a formal signatory to the Law of the Sea but historically follows its principles.

* He calls the current destruction of small boats in the Caribbean a “travesty of maritime justice.”

* Says no nation has legal authority to summarily execute traffickers or civilians at sea. Even if drugs are involved, lethal force is disproportionate and illegal under international law.

* Suggests these are not U.S. military operations—no legitimate military unit would carry them out.

* Speculates the strikes may be conducted by contractors or paramilitary groups (“a Blackwater-type unit”), possibly using U.S.-made drones (MQ-1s) equipped with Griffin or Hellfire missiles.

Political and International Implications

* Claims China and Russia have condemned the U.S. actions but stop short of formal retaliation because of America’s global influence.

* Suggests a “tacit pass” from other nations who fear political or economic retribution from the Trump administration.

* Believes anyone involved in these killings could be wanted by the International Criminal Court eventually.

On Intelligence and Drug Smuggling

* Acknowledges U.S. intelligence could identify drug-smuggling vessels—but that doesn’t justify lethal strikes.

* Notes most cocaine entering the U.S. comes by cargo containers, not small boats.

* Says these vessels are likely heading to nearby Caribbean islands, not to America directly.

David Thoreson’s Climate Question

Sailor and explorer David Thoreson shifted the discussion to climate and national security:

* Franken co-authored the Defense Science Board Climate Change Report, which modeled a potential “trillion-dollar storm” devastating Florida and the Gulf Coast.

* Warns that small island nations have no capacity to recover from major hurricanes and that U.S. government indifference to climate change heightens global instability.

On Who’s Really Behind the Strikes

* Franken speculates the drones could be flown from Panama or Colombia, operated by non-military contractorsunder U.S. direction but outside standard military oversight.

* He insists: “You can’t keep this kind of thing quiet in the military.” The lack of leaks suggests it’s being done covertly by private actors.

Military Ethics and Resistance

* When asked if military leaders might refuse illegal orders, Franken says most officers know right from wrong and would resist unlawful commands.

* He warns, though, that if the U.S. escalates to airstrikes in Venezuela or Colombia, “we won’t have a 2026 election.”

Press Freedom and Oversight

* On the ousting of the Pentagon press corps, Franken calls it alarming:

* Says journalists were part of a “three-legged stool” with military and legal officers keeping transparency.

* Their removal replaces journalism with propaganda, eroding accountability.

* He reiterates that proportionality—using only necessary force—is a fundamental military principle being violated.

Wealth Inequality and Social Decay

* In closing, Franken pivots to domestic issues:

* Believes the U.S. is in a “tussle to maximize wealth disparity”—a systemic division that fuels hopelessness.

* Notes younger generations, even with good jobs, are “flat broke” due to debt and housing costs.

* Warns the U.S. may lose its global appeal as more people emigrate than immigrate.

Economic Fallout and Government Paralysis

* Shares a personal anecdote from Washington, D.C.: neighbors furloughed from government jobs have only weeks of savings left.

* Laments public disdain for civil servants, noting many are highly trained professionals essential to national stability.

* Predicts cascading consequences:

* Airline disruptions as subsidies to small airports (like Sioux City, IA) expire.

* Worsening public safety and infrastructure failures as funding collapses.

Final Tone

Julie quipped, “Thank you for making us even more depressed than we were,” to which Franken replied that he didn’t mean to—but acknowledged we’re living through an exceptionally difficult moment.

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