This time John discusses a former Memphis police officer pleaded guilty in the fatal beating of Tyre Nichols, and is expected to aid further prosecution of the murder. Then, he interviews Ivy Scott who is a criminal justice reporter focusing on Massachusetts state courts, district attorneys, and the state Attorney General's office. Ivy joins Boston Globe advice columnist Meredith Goldstein in a three part series on the relationship podcast "Love Letters", called "We Found Love" which focuses on women who fall in love with men who are serving life in prison. Then he welcomes back native Americans Simon Moya-Smith and Julie Francella. They talk about Native beliefs and traditions. Simon's new book is called "Your Spirit Animal is a Jackass" and Julie's art can be found at juliefrancella.com

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