Lots of amazing ideas and insights to think about in this chat with Gisela Ruckert, a dear friend and long time climate action leader and electoral reform advocate. One of the best conversations I've ever had on the best ways to build community and tackle big issues.

• explaining electoral reform
• transition Kamloops climate action work
• Kamloops climate action fest planning leadership insights
• projects coming out of climate action fest
• power and peril of activism
• role of radicals
• perils of polarization
• power of good process
• trust and inclusivity
• electoral reform leading to more trusted durable policies
• the power of citizen assemblies. Intentional ways to build back societal trust