Ahmad Shabbar is the CEO of Garbage Can, a company focused on comprehensive waste management. Ahmad has been on the streets of Karachi pumping out water and protesting against DHA/CBC.  Ahmad comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the protests, we talk about what we think did not work and why there was a low turn out on Thursday. We also discuss what it will talk for actual change to happen in Karachi, and subsequently in Pakistan.  The Pakistan Experience is a podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan, and Pakistanis, through the lost art of conversation.