Kathy Petsas is a long-time Republican activist in Arizona. She was recently featured in a book about how the MAGA movement has taken over the Republican Party at the ground level. Kathy shares her first-hand experience dealing with MAGA true believers who started showing up in waves to precinct meetings in 2021. We also discuss the defining characteristics of MAGA movement, and how MAGA's ideology is different from conservativism.

The book is titled "Finish What We Started: The MAGA Movement’s Ground War to End Democracy"

Link: https://www.amazon.com/Ground-Game-MAGA-Movements-America/dp/0316497517