Amol and Nick with their take on Keir Starmer’s first Today interview since becoming PM and behind the scenes insights about what it’s like doing big political interviews.

Plus, Ruby Wax drops in for Moment of the Week.

You can hear more of Amol’s conversation with Ruby Wax in a bonus episode that will drop on Saturday morning.

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Amol and Nick are both presenters of BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. Amol was the BBC’s media editor for six years and is the former editor of the Independent, he’s also the current presenter of University Challenge. Nick was the BBC’s political editor for ten years before and was also ITV’s political editor.

The senior producers were Lewis Vickers and Tom Smithard, the producer was Hatty Nash, the editor was Louisa Lewis and the executive producer was Owenna Griffiths. Technical production from Ben Andrews and digital production from Charlie Henry.