Kellie and Kimbra discuss the pros and cons of Medicare for All. The ladies explain the difference between universal healthcare, single-payer healthcare, socialized medicine, Medicaid, Medicare, public option and Cadillac insurance. They agree that universal health care should be the goal, as they examine the appealing aspects of not being tied to employment, no red tape, lower costs, saving lives and greater choice of doctors. Kimbra brings up her fear of longer wait-times to see a doctor, but Kellie points out that a shortage of doctors doesn't necessarily relate to who pays, as long doctors are still well-paid, which both agree on.