The Tories are the only party that can be trusted on the economy, not Labour or Reform, Kemi Badenoch said today. But is anyone listening?

After a speech in which she offered to work with Keir Starmer on welfare reform, Camilla and Tim ask the Conservative leader if there is really any substance to her plans.

Plus, the deputy Labour leadership election has rapidly descended into a battle of identity politics. But which of the race leaders Emily Thornberry and Bridget Philipson would be more of a headache for the PM?

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