Kerrilynn Pamer is the co-founder and CEO of the natural beauty brand CAP beauty. She’s built a career out of being curious - about cool face oils and amazing scents - but also about more esoteric health and beauty practices. At her core she’s a student of routine. She and Lizzy discuss what it’s like to live a creative life that has no one central creative practice, and why the term wellness needs a refresh. 

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