Difficult Artist

Lizzy speaks to the writer and director Edgar Wright about the value of enthusiasm, the reasons why humorous works of art get taken less seriously, and how he first became obsessed with the cult band, Sparks, the subject of his latest film.

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Lizzy talks to New Yorker staff writer Jia Tolentino about the weird honor of becoming well known for writing about commodification of self - Tolentino's best-selling essay collection Trick Mirror was published in 2019. They also, predictably, get to talking about the golden age of blogging, pandemic anxiety, and why so many women of the millennial generation grew up convinced feminism was a dirty word.  

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Lizzy speaks with the filmmaker Floria Sigismondi about the art of collaboration. What’s it like to make music videos with David Bowie? Or fashion films with Gucci’s Alessandro Michele? How do you keep track of your own creative voice while also serving the vision of someone else? 

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Lizzy talks to her friend and hero, the writer and pop cultural historian Rob Sheffield about how he’s stayed so psyched to write about music for so long. A few of his secrets: old mixtapes, new bands, and the willingness to approach it all with a beginner’s mind. 

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Lizzy talks to Chvrches frontwoman Lauren Mayberry about the value of an onstage persona, the charmingly nerdy spreadsheet she made when crafting lyrics for the band’s forthcoming LP, Screen Violence, and reclaiming the “Hitchcock blonde” archetype.

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Stand-up comedian Iliza Shlesinger is also a writer, producer, actor, author and podcaster. Many people - especially women - who do a lot of things well try to play down the labor involved; pretending it's easy is yet another thing you're supposed to be good at. Not Iliza. Lizzy talks to the comedian about her unapologetic drive, her willingness to wear her work ethic on her sleeve and how she knows when she has a new idea.

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Megan Abbott is the author of ten novels, including her most recent, The Turnout. She’s also an accomplished screenwriter who co-show ran the TV adaptation of her novel, Dare Me, and was a writer on David Simon’s The Deuce. Lizzy wants to know all of Megan’s secrets. How does she keep all these different worlds alive at the same time? And how does Megan, a cerebral lit and film nerd with an actual PHD write novels that are so proudly, defiantly sensory?

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Terrence “Punch” Henderson is the president of Top Dawg Entertainment, the small but mighty Carson, California based record label that’s home to some of the most innovative and influential artists in the music business, like Kendrick Lamar and SZA. Punch - who is a rapper himself, as well as a producer, executive, and artist whisperer - started working with the label back in the early 2000s when it was still run out of his cousin, founder and CEO Anthony “Top Dawg” Tiffith’s house. Lizzy asks Punch about his approach to blending art with business, which he regularly muses about in his unusually philosophical and funny social media posts.

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Patrick Carney and Dan Auerbach of the Black Keys first knew each other as two kids in their Akron, Ohio neighborhood who got beaten up by the same bully. How did that relationship turn into one of the most enduring and productive of the modern rock era? Lizzy and Patrick get into it all – the highs and lows of being in a band with one other person, the value of unabashedly trying, and the importance of shutting the f**k up in the studio, a lesson Patrick first learned from Danger Mouse.

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Kerrilynn Pamer is the co-founder and CEO of the natural beauty brand CAP beauty. She’s built a career out of being curious - about cool face oils and amazing scents - but also about more esoteric health and beauty practices. At her core she’s a student of routine. She and Lizzy discuss what it’s like to live a creative life that has no one central creative practice, and why the term wellness needs a refresh. 

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