In Episode 4 we interview Kevin Umstaedter. He is a retired Air Force aviator who flew in B-52's as a navigator and F/B-111 fighter bombers. He also works as a government employee overseas in Naples, Italy. He is going to give us some insight on the pandemic in Italy and how it has affected US service members and veterans serving overseas. We discuss in the Podcast how Kevin has never applied for his VA benefits despite the fact that he left active duty over 30 years ago. We will talk a little bit about how the "first step" in the VA process is sometimes the hardest. We hope you enjoy the episode. Follow us on Twitter @veterans_o

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