In this episode, we discuss the biggest talking points stemming from Michigan's 27-17 loss to Penn State.

We open by discussing the fan opinion that Jim Harbaugh has lost Michigan's locker room. We look at why the Wolverines lost on so many "effort" plays, how significant that is and what that could mean to where the team is at in the season mentally.

Next, we look at the impact an expected change at defensive coordinator could have in 2021, and how many of Michigan's problems on the defensive side of the ball can be traced to the coordinator as opposed to other factors.

We then turn to the offensive side of the ball, looking at Josh Gattis' 19-game tenure with the Wolverines. We discuss the offense's youth, how excusable that is and other observations from Michigan's offense.

We then look at the validity of Michigan's injury situation as an excuse for results, and debate where Saturday's loss ranks among the Wolverines' worst performances of the season.

Finally, we close with our "air it out" section, as Lorenz shows sympathy to Michigan fans while Shaw ponders how the staples of Jim Harbaugh football have disappeared.

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