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Today's episode features Killer Stories - Conversations with South African serial murderers!

‘If you made me angry, for that anger to go away, I have to get hold of you . . . I have to do something to you.’

These chilling words were spoken by one of South Africa’s most feared serial killers during an interview with Brin Hodgs-kiss in one of the country's most secure prisons.

Hodgskiss earned his doctorate in psychology through a study based on interviews with thirteen serial killers. His recordings remained untouched until recently, when top true-crime podcaster Nicole Engelbrecht discovered his paper online. This led to the creation of Killer Stories.

Killer Stories intertwines the killers' accounts, the true-crime events behind them, and Hodgskiss's own journey as a psychologist, leading to a profound understanding of these complex minds.

In this episide Brinn and Nicole chat to one another regarding their love of True Crime, psychology and the process that went into creating this book.

Enjoy!