This week I spiraled out with the delightfully funny, charming, and ELEVEN TIME EMMY-NOMINATED Ariel Dumas (Head Writer- The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.)  We talked the three shameful things that happen to everyone in adulthood, why feeling bad can feel oh so good, the  spooky and powerful embodied physicality of shame- and Ariel even tolerated me enthusiastically (and obvs unofficially) diagnosing her with ADHD!

Plus, Ariel shares a shame story about accidentally mass emailing HUNDREDS  of students a message that likely sent them all careening into their own shame-anxiety spiral!

Always enjoy Ariel's work on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert, and stay tuned for the arrival of her new project, which is a LOONEY TUNES MUSICAL!?!?!?!? Ariel is also consistently hilarious on Twitter @ArielDumas,  Instagram @arieldumaspubicaccount and TikTok @arieldoom. 
 
You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok @elykreimendahl, and the pod on Twitter and Instagram @podshamespiral, where I'm regularly posting fun video clips of especially juicy or hilarious moments from the episodes.  

Audio Engineer/Editor: Sarah Gabrielli (check out her amazing podcast about the last lesbian bars in America @cruisingpod on Instagram and TikTok and listen here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cruising-a-lesbian-bar-road-trip/id1585850925

Original Music: Shadwick Wilde, Instagram and Twitter: @shadwickwilde

Cover Art: Cassidy Kulhanek, Instagram, Twitter and TikTok: @heavenlygrandpa

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