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Hello, welcome to Bringing Design Closer. My name is Gerry Scullion and I’m a service design practitioner and trainer based in Dublin City, Ireland. I caught up with one of my favourite authors and design researchers recently, Kim Goodwin. Many of you will be familiar with her work, but for those of you who are not, Kim has written some fantastic articles and wrote the design design staple: How to Create Human-Centred Products and Services. A book that if you haven’t picked a copy up of, it’s still really relevant today, ten years later. We discussed the world of extending design systems within organisations, to decision systems to help steer the organisations towards more human-centredness. 

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