Kind of Crushing It

Kind of Crushing It

By Jessica McGovern & Natalie MilosevicBusinessCareersManagement
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Kind of Crushing It episodes

  • The career pause panic

    Jessica and Nat unpack the fear of stepping away from your career and what it means for your identity, progression and future goals. From hypothetical spirals to the very real fear of losing momentum after time away, they explore how easy it is to tie your worth to constant progression and the pressure to "stay valuable".

    You'll hear about: 1️⃣ The fear of falling behind after a career pause 2️⃣ Why your priorities and goals are allowed to change 3️⃣ How leaders can better support people in moving forward

    If you've ever felt pressure to keep proving your value, this episode will feel very familiar. Jessica and Nat explore the importance of mindset shifts, honest conversations, and career paths that actually align with your life.

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    41 min
  • Overthinking: My Least Productive Full Time Job

    Jessica and Nat unpack the exhausting cycle of overthinking. From harmless "optioneering" to 3 AM worry spirals, they explore the difference between useful preparation and fear-driven thinking.

    They reflect on the pressure to have all the answers, the mental overload that comes with constant looping thoughts, and how overthinking can become tied to deeper fears around judgement, control and self-worth.

    You'll hear about: 1️⃣ How overthinking drains your energy 2️⃣ The difference between actionable worry and emotional catastrophising 3️⃣ Practical ways to interrupt late-night thought spirals

    If you've ever replayed a conversation 47 times or convinced yourself a single mistake was career-ending, this episode will feel very familiar.

    Jessica and Nat explore how to work with your overthinking tendencies and why self-awareness matters more than trying to switch off your thoughts.

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    41 min
  • Yes, I cried. No, I'm not sorry.

    Jessica and Nat unpack the reality of crying at work, from bathroom breakdowns to emotional performance reviews and resignation tears that felt more like a breakup than a career move.

    They explore the pressure to stay composed, why emotional expression is often mistaken for weakness, and how sometimes tears have absolutely nothing to do with the situation in front of you.

    You'll hear about: 1️⃣ Why crying at work doesn't mean you can't cope 2️⃣ How exhaustion, stress and burnout can show up emotionally 3️⃣ The importance of holding space instead of trying to "fix" people

    If you've ever cried in a meeting, hidden your red eyes in a bathroom, or apologised for having emotions at work, this episode will feel very familiar.

    Jessica and Nat explore what it looks like to let emotions move through you without attaching shame to them, and why vulnerability at work might not be the weakness we've been taught it is.

    🤍 What other resources we love on this topic:

    Jefferson Fisher on crying in the workplace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOe3pVxdN6U

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    27 min
  • Red Flags, White Flags and Career Scars

    Jessica and Nat dive into the workplace moments that seem to stick with you forever. Awkward feedback, burnout spirals, public call-outs, and tiny comments your brain somehow decided to archive for the next 15 years.

    They unpack how perfectionism, overworking, and self-doubt can shape the way we show up at work, and why so many high performers end up tying their self-worth to their output. Along the way, they explore burnout, boundaries, and the pressure to constantly prove yourself.

    You'll hear about:

    1️⃣ Why "small" workplace moments can leave lasting career scars

    2️⃣ How perfectionism turns work into one giant risk-management strategy

    3️⃣ Why small shifts and boundaries matter more than being perfect

    If you've ever replayed feedback in the shower, convinced yourself one mistake ruined your career, or worked way too hard trying to prove you belong, this episode will feel painfully relatable.

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    37 min
  • Finding Purpose (After your work bestie abandons you for a better job)

    Jessica and Nat unpack the surprisingly emotional experience of watching your work bestie leave. From workplace "abandonment issues" to questioning whether you actually like your job, they explore how easy it is to confuse comfort with alignment.

    They reflect on the friendships that make hard jobs easier, the guilt that can come with leaving a team you care about, and why career decisions need to be based on more than who makes your workday easier.

    You'll hear about: 1️⃣ How workplace friendships can shape career decisions 2️⃣ Why comfort isn't always the same as fulfilment 3️⃣ How to choose growth without losing meaningful relationships

    If you've ever stayed in a role because of the people, panicked when your favourite colleague resigned, or felt guilty for choosing yourself, this episode will feel very familiar. Jessica and Nat explore what it looks like to back yourself, protect great friendships, and make career decisions that align with your future.

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    23 min
  • Taking the blame (and learning to drop it)

    Jessica and Nat unpack the exhausting cycle of blame culture, when mistakes happen at work and everyone rushes to find someone responsible. From being blamed, to blaming themselves, to catching themselves doing it to others, they reflect on how easy it is to repeat the very behaviours that once damaged your confidence.

    They explore how blame can feed perfectionism, risk-aversion, and resentment, keeping people stuck in fear instead of growth.

    You'll hear about:

    1️⃣ How being blamed makes mistakes feel overwhelming 2️⃣ How blame culture turns high performers into overthinkers 3️⃣ Why accountability matters more than blame

    If you've ever blamed yourself for things outside your control, or felt frustrated when others don't operate at the standards you set for yourself, this episode will feel very familiar. Jessica and Nat explore what it looks like to own your part, drop what isn't yours, and move forward without carrying unnecessary shame.

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    41 min
  • Dear 25-year-old me: Stop apologising (and maybe drink more water)

    Kind of on Purpose Series:

    Jessica and Nat take a lighter, reflective turn as they look back on what they wish they could tell their 25-year-old selves, with a mix of humour, hindsight, and hard-earned perspective. From apologising and perfectionism to simply remembering to drink water, this episode is a candid reflection on the habits, beliefs, and pressures that shape us early in our careers.

    They explore how learning not to take everything personally, practising self-compassion, and letting go of perfectionism could have changed the experience of those early career years. Along the way, they remind us that personal development isn't about fixing yourself overnight.

    You'll hear about:

    1️⃣ How values create clarity when you're not sure what's next

    2️⃣ How perfectionism and overthinking fuel burnout

    3️⃣ What shifts when you build self-awareness, self-compassion, and alignment

    However old you are, this episode is a reminder that you don't need to have it all figured out. Drink the water, stop apologising, and trust that learning, reflecting, and adjusting along the way is part of how you grow. Jessica and Nat invite you to look back with compassion, move forward with intention, and keep kind of crushing it.

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    22 min
  • The corporate character I played, before I found myself again.

    Kind of on Purpose Series:

    Join Jessica and Nat as they unpack the corporate "character" they both played early in their careers, the mask they thought they had to wear to fit in, be taken seriously, and succeed at work.

    In this episode, they explore how many of us copy the behaviours and language of people we see as "successful", even when it doesn't feel natural. From firm handshakes and football chats to forced assertiveness, they reflect on how mimicking others slowly drains your energy. Through honest stories, they unpack what shifted when they started showing up more authentically.

    You'll hear about:

    1️⃣ Why playing a "corporate character" is exhausting and unsustainable

    2️⃣ What changes when you give yourself permission to be your authentic self

    3️⃣ How to notice when the mask slips back on, and how to respond with awareness

    If you think you deserve an Oscar for Best Actor in the "How Successful People Behave" category, this episode is for you. Jessica and Nat remind us that authenticity isn't about being fearless or perfect, it's about awareness, choice, and giving yourself permission to come back to who you actually are, again and again.

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    27 min
  • I'm not a big deal (and that's fine...mostly)

    Kind of on Purpose Series:

    Join Jessica and Nat as they unpack the weird, relatable tension of wanting to feel "successful", while also learning to be okay with not being the standout, the unicorn, or the person who's good at everything.

    In this episode, they explore how the pressure to be "the best" gets shaped early, through school, uni, grades, and ladders, and then follows us into the workplace where the rules are… far less clear.

    Through honest, vulnerable stories, they talk about what happens when you keep judging yourself like a fish trying to climb a tree, and what shifts when you finally align with your strengths.

    You'll hear about:

    1️⃣ Why trying to be good at everything leaves you drained

    2️⃣ How old beliefs and comparison creep back in

    3️⃣ What changes when you stop measuring yourself against the wrong standards

    If you've ever looked at someone else and thought, "How are they good at literally everything?" or had one small setback spiral into "I'm just bad at this", this episode is for you. Jessica and Nat remind us that you don't need to be an all-rounder to feel successful, you just need clarity on what actually matters to you, and the self-awareness to return to it when old beliefs get loud.

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    34 min
  • Yes, I'm the Engineer

    Jessica and Nat interrupt Series 1 for a special International Women's Day episode, and it's a mix of laugh out loud moments and real reflection. From being mistaken for "the note taker", to comments about fashion choices, they reflect on how quickly confidence can drop once you hit the workforce.

    They also explore the more complicated layers, how much of this is gender, how much is personality, and why "just be more assertive" isn't always a simple fix. Along the way, they talk about the pressure of becoming the most senior woman in the room and suddenly feeling like you're the walking case study for every younger woman watching.

    You'll hear about:

    1️⃣ The small moments that can undermine confidence

    2️⃣ Why the "just follow the path" advice doesn't work for everyone

    3️⃣ How to support, not compete, and still advocate for yourself

    If you've ever felt like you had to work twice as hard to be taken seriously, or you've wondered whether you're reacting to a "you thing" or a bigger pattern, this episode offers a grounded, honest take. Jessica and Nat don't pretend there's a perfect solution, but they do remind you that awareness is a start, boundaries can be learned, and you're allowed to succeed as yourself, not as a version you think the room expects.

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    42 min

About Kind of Crushing It

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Kind of thriving. Kind of overwhelmed. Totally still trying.