In this week’s episode, we are speaking with Dr. Katherine Gura, a research scientist at Colorado State University and a leader in raptor research and conservation, with a specific focus on Great Grey Owls. Katherine also has a background in wildlife ecology and is a long standing team member at the Teton Raptor Center working with raptors to better understand their needs in a time of changing climates and habitat loss.

If you’ve ever heard the call of an owl, in the dark, under a full moon and gotten full body chills, you will know why we loved this conversation so much. And if you haven’t, take a listen because we offer you that experience today. 

Katherine takes us into the habitat of the Great Grey Owl and sits with us as she explains why they are so exceptional, wise, and captivating. And we left this space understanding why this incredible raptor is a wildlife treasure, and what they offer not only their ecosystem, but what they mean to us and why we should value them and fight for their conservation. 

Thanks so much to Katherine for taking us into the world of the magical Great Grey Owl. 

An owl with a call that will echo through your soul. 

Lots of Love. 

Episode Time Stamps:

Introduction: 00:53

Interview: 6:24

TA: 1:03:42

Show Note Links:

https://tetonraptorcenter.square.site/product/phantom-of-the-north/49?cs=true&cst=custom

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Great_Gray_Owl/overview

https://www.cira.colostate.edu/staff/gura-katherine/

https://tetonraptorcenter.org/wild-women-of-wildlife-features-trcs-katherine-gura/

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This time of year can be challenging. It’s dark, grey and cold. So Kat and I thought we could offer a new perspective, one that Jenn and I have been shifting for years.

How can we see darker and colder times as a way to rest and renew ourselves?

What if we looked to the natural world for a better, more meaningful way to experience winter?

Here are our thoughts on how we might lean into the winter season and look to animals and nature as a guide and inspiration on how to rest and renew ourselves and tap into seasonal cycles and see what we can learn from these organic rhythms during “darker” times.

Happy New Year, dear listeners. From all of us at Kindred we wish you all a warm and peaceful holiday season! And may the energy this time of year can offer, nurture you through this winter.

And all the best to you in 2025!

As always, lots of love.

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In this week’s episode, we speak with Rosalie Haizlett about her new book Tiny Worlds of the Appalachian Mountains. Tiny Worlds is an immersion into the small and tiny worlds of the Appalachian Trail and a journal of both paintings and thoughts about Rosalie's time spent hiking this long, old, incredibly diverse trail and mountain range.  

Rosalie's gift lies not only in her beautiful watercolor illustrations, but also her ability to highlight and elevate what is often overlooked, but has always been there. The little guys. The ones who survive and endure through brutal landscape deconstruction like logging, strip mining, and development. 

We loved the walk down memory lane visiting plants and places and spaces where we grew up, living in Maryland as children and camping in the Blue Ridge Mountains of West Virginia, where Rosalie lives today. 

Thanks so much to Rosalie for also highlighting what we call the flower of our lineage, starting with our Great Grandmother!

And, the moth that we love so much, Jenn even has an incredible tattoo of it! Listen to find out! 

Lots of love. 

Episode Time Stamps:

Introduction: 00:51

Interview: 8:36

TA: 55:04

Show Note Links:

https://rosaliehaizlett.com/

https://rosaliehaizlett.com/collections/art-prints/products/luna-moth-watercolor-art-print

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_moth

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/30/firefly-endangered-species-list

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In this week’s conversation, we speak with Stefania Uccheddu, Veterinarian and Coordinator of the Behavioral Medicine Service at the San Marco Veterinary Clinic and Laboratory, located in San Marco, Italy. 

In this conversation, our focus is specifically the grief-like process that dogs can go through when they lose their dog companion, but Stefania does touch on a few other really key intersecting spaces that go hand in hand with the dog's experience.

Having witnessed what our dog Blue went through after losing his sister Pip, I was really interested in finding out how we all might support our beloved dogs better after losing what we all consider a pack or family member. 

Will you need a tissue, maybe. But really, this is a positive, kind, and really sweet episode. The focus is on acknowledging in our dogs what we humans are also going through. And this is what we love so much about the research Stefania Uccheddu and her team have been working on. 

Please share this episode! It’s so validating and supportive for those of us who have gone through this with our pets. It’s such a gift. 

Lots of Love.

Episode Time Stamps:

Introduction: 00:52

Interview: 6:32

TA: 55:04

Show Note Links:

https://www.clinicaveterinariasanmarco.it/

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In this week’s conversation, we speak with Nigel Rothfels, Professor of History from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. Nigel has long been studying the history of ideas we humans have of animals and animal studies, which lucky for us includes all things zoos! Because boy did we have questions upon questions…

And like all good questions and conversations the answer is never “good or bad” is it? It’s complicated. But Nigel patiently walked us through a long history and into some dark corners where we could shine some light.

This conversation was dynamic, heartfelt, respectful, and at moments hilarious. It was such a pleasure to dig deep into a subject that we could push back on, disagree on, learn about, and come away with a sense of being heard but maybe more importantly shift our perspectives and be open to all the grey that complicated stories can offer us.

Also, we talk about Nigel's new edition of his book Savages and Beasts: The Birth of the Modern Zoo coming out in the Spring, and about my new favourite animal conference that he is going to create and all I can say is Jenn and I would be perfect guests on this panel.

Wink.

Thanks for listening,

Lots of Love.

Episode Time Stamps:

Intro: 00:53

Interview: 5:52

TA: 56:50

Show Note Links:

https://www.nps.gov/articles/california-condor-recovery.htm

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In this week’s conversation, we had the absolute pleasure of speaking with  Carer and Head Manager of the Rhino Orphanage, Yolandé van der Merwe. We have been following the Rhino Orphanage since their foundation in 2012, so when we started this podcast they were immediately on our list! 

The story of the Rhino Orphanage is one of great tragedy and great triumph.  It’s a story of the moment you see a life hanging in the balance, and in an instant the course of your life changes. 

This conversation is a testament to the power of love, dedication, and an unwavering commitment to the belief that we must help each other, humans and animals alike and that through action, time, and healing, we can all thrive and one day return to the life we once knew.

Because of the Rhino Orphanage, baby rhinos are brought to a safe place and through the amazing veterinarian and carer teams, are given a second chance. It’s a brutal transition when a baby rhino loses their mother to violence, and is often attacked themselves, but the Rhino team is there to nurture them back to health, both physically and mentally.

The team at the Rhino Orphanage are the Heroes of our time. 

They are the reason rhinos might have a chance.

Deeply grateful for this conversation, and all that you do Yolandé! If you need a coffee or a sammie while you're busy with the babies, text us. 

Lots of Love.

Episode Time Stamps:

Intro: 00:52

Interview: 7:18

TA: 58:58

Show Note Links:

⁠https://therhinoorphanage.org/⁠

⁠https://abcnews.go.com/International/radioactive-material-inserted-rhino-horns-anti-poaching-project/story?id=111467880⁠

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In this week’s episode, we are speaking with Kirsty-Jo Muddiman, representative for The Seahorse Trust and coordinator of the Malta Seahorse Project.

Who knew that the seahorse is as fancy inside as out! This might be the most surprising little animal we have covered yet, and that’s saying A LOT.

Take a listen to all the fun facts on seahorse morphology and biology and let us know which attribute is most surprising to you!

Our big question is why hasn’t Disney or Pixar not created an animated film featuring this amazing creature that not only looks like a horse/fish/chameleon, but performs one of the most romantic mating dances OF ALL TIME.

Thanks so much to Kirsty-Jo for this delightful conversation and introducing us to the stoic, romantic, vulnerable apex predator that is the seahorse.

Fun Facts: The latin for seahorse is Hippocampus meaning “horse caterpillar.”

And baby seahorses are called “fry.”

Episode Time Stamps:

Intro: 00:52

Interview: 5:37

TA: 49:42

Show Note Links:

https://www.theseahorsetrust.org/

https://www.theseahorsetrust.org/conservation/malta-research-project/

https://www.theseahorsetrust.org/seahorse-man-film-on-netflix/

https://www.facebook.com/ziemeltalbahar

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Hello Kindred Podcast community! 

NEW episodes start dropping  bimonthly on Oct. 22nd and we can’t wait! Have a listen now for some episode teasers, a little Kate & Jenn update, and what’s new and upcoming for our next season. 

BIG shout out to our new subscribers and those of you who have bought us a coffee! Thank you TONS! 

And thank you to our loyal listeners and for sharing our podcast with your community.

If you’d like to join our community please go to our website kindredpodcast.co where you can sign up for our newsletter, find all episode notes and links, support us through subscriptions and Buy A Coffee app, visit our Book Club page, and more. 

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In this week’s episode, we travel to Denmark and speak with author and long time marine biologist Hanne Strager about the incredible and dynamic predator the killer whale, or orca if you prefer.

Hanne specializes in marine wildlife, specifically killer whales, and has recently published her new book titled, The Killer Whale Journals: Our Love and Fear of Orcas. 

We wanted to speak with Hanne because we are keenly interested in the relationship humans have with predators and why killer whales have long been persecuted, misunderstood, and even demonised by humans, like MANY predators whether that be on land or sea. We think they are dynamic, highly intelligent, gorgeous, and captivating animals and Hanne tells us why!

What an absolute honor to speak with Hanne. We steeped in her knowledge and experience and mostly her poignant insights on not only killer whales but also her view of the relationship we have with animals like killer whales and other powerful and intelligent predators. 

Also, take a listen to this week's introduction to the episode and weigh in on whether my “joke” about killer whales is actually a joke, a riddle, or just a question! Jenn is most definitely unsure! Lols. 

Lots of Love.

Episode Timestamps:

https://hannestrager.com/

https://www.instagram.com/hannestrager/

https://www.thewhale.no/en

Articles:

https://www.raincoast.org/2024/05/southern-residents-salmon-science/

https://www.afar.com/magazine/the-whale-museum-to-open-in-norway-in-2022

https://dortemandrup.dk/work/whale-norway

Amazing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhmJkIUH_qw

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In this week’s episode, we had the absolute pleasure of speaking with entomologist Gwen Erdosh! We came across her Instagram account a few years back and have been huge fans ever since. 

We are so inspired by Gwen for many reasons. She’s a woman who has loved entomology from a very young age, she features insects in a way that is super fun and respectful, and her passion for all-things-bugs is infectious. 

Oh, and she speaks about them not only in English but in fluent Spanish (We can barely spell/say Pyrophorus Noctilucus in one language let alone two!)!

It’s scientists like Gwen that are the future of saving this planet, and the incredible critical species that keep this world clean and thriving, and give us food, flowers, and all the good things!

The fashion world and Hollywood’s got nothing on the spectacular insects Gwen finds. You wanna see the real trend setters? Head to Gwen’s Instagram account and get ready to be WOWED! 

Lots of Love!

Episode Timestamps:

https://www.instagram.com/gwentomologist/

https://www.savenature.org/mission-history

https://entsoc.org/

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