Originally released April 30, 2025. New Kindred episodes will drop starting in October 2025.

And guess who’s back?

Our favorite Zoo historian and author, Nigel Rothfels! Yes, we dragged him back to congratulate him on the newly revised edition of his book Savages and Beasts: The Birth of the Modern Zoo. If you haven’t heard our fun and fiery episode with Nigel, PLEASE go back and listen to our OG episode titled Zoos: Bad or Good? because we revisit some of the hot topics we covered and dig a little deeper into the future of zoos and conservation.

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Show Notes:

Previous Kindred Episode: https://www.kindredpodcast.co/56-zoos-good-or-bad-a-conversation-with-historian-nigel-rothfels/

https://sites.uwm.edu/rothfels/https://www.press.jhu.edu/books/title/53791/savages-and-beasts?srsltid=AfmBOopM5MOYEb1y4n36S0kIG1ZrZVaC0frAcAkB9bFZm3IKMNagWwwp

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