Don't be afraid to fail big.  But who gets to fail without real consequences? And how do we recover from life's most disappointing moments? Today we discuss some of our failures, our feelings about them, and how we've learned to cultivate resilience through building our internal "toolbox" of skills and practices.http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/07/18/episode-22-resilience-and-overcoming-fear-of-failure/What We're Reading and Listening ToAshley has been watching the Queer Eye reboot on Netflix. Jonathan Van Ness, one of the cast members, has a  podcast called Getting Curious. His episode "How to Apply Ethics to Everyday Life," a conversation with Christian ethicist Ryan Huber, whose scholarship focuses on German theologian and anti-Nazi activist Dietrich Bonhoeffer, offers an accessible way to learn more about a complex, nuanced issue.Katey has been giggling at Riot's Womanhood series on Youtube featuring comedians Aparna Nancherla and Jo Firestone. Katey discovered the duo on an episode of the Unladylike podcast called "How to Gal Pal." While all of the episodes will have you in stitches, she recommends you start with this one:  “Do you Need Helmets for Aqua Cycling?”Kindreds of the MomentWe are celebrating all of the resisters who are speaking out against injustice. Here are some of our favorites:-600 women sit-in at the Senate Building protesting family separation, wrapped in foil blankets. Almost all of them were arrested.-Clergy protest family separation and Jeff Sessions in Los Angeles -Clergywomen demonstrate outside of Customs and Border Protection office in DC-Patricia Okuomou, immigrant from Congo, climbed the Statue of Liberty on the 4th of July to protest ICE and family separation. She said, “'When they go low, we go high,’ and I went as high as I could.”We'll be taking the month of August off from recording. We'll be back with new episodes in September.**Have you pledged to support Kindreds on our Patreon page? You can sign up in less than a minute–and for as little as $1 a month. Thanks for helping us cover the cost of making, producing, and sharing this show. https://www.patreon.com/kindreds**

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Pain is personal. But what happens when our pain isn’t taken seriously? We dive into the dynamics of pain, gender, and the medical community, and we address how this impacts women of color particularly. We talk specifically about childbirth and pain more generally–and the messages we got as kids about “making a fuss” over our ailments.Read the full show notes at:http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/07/03/episode-21-women-and-pain/**Have you pledged to support Kindreds on our Patreon page? You can sign up in less than a minute–and for as little as $1 a month. Thanks for helping us cover the cost of making, producing, and sharing this show**

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Ashley and Katey are back together again! To celebrate our 20th episode Ashley is busy creating a custom Kindreds playlist on Spotify and Amazon Prime to share with our listeners. As a special treat for our Patreon supporters, we'll make the playlist available two weeks early. Not a patron yet? It's so easy to sign up. Head over to our Patreon page and sign up. http://patreon.com/kindreds We're really grateful for our friends over at the Pulpit Fiction podcast who are having accessible conversations about the lectionary texts each week. In particular we love the conversation they did last year with writer and theologian Rob Bell. Check them out and be sure to subscribe.This episode we're talking about apologizing in the era of #MeToo and #ChurchToo. We talk about the different kinds of apologies, why genuine apologies are so important (and hard), and the dynamics of accepting apologies. We talk about the four components of a genuine apology that was developed for elementary school kids but is a useful tool for grown-ups too. And, we critique the emphasis in many churches on offering forgiveness to those who have done the harming, even if the person has refused to accept responsibility or change their behavior.Check out the full show notes at:http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/06/24/episode-20-when-sorry-youre-mad-doesnt-cut-it/

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Katey speaks with filmmaker and journalist Asha Dahya about her upcoming documentary series Life At All Costs: Going Beyond Pro Choice vs. Pro Life. We talk about her faith journey from evangelicalism to spiritual searching and how that shapes her work around changing the conversation around reproductive health and rights.Asha Dahya is a journalist, a filmmaker, and the Content Creator and Editor-in-Chief of GirlTalkHQ, a daily women’s news media site with a mission to inspire and empower, and that centers positive news for women with a focus on the representation of women in the media. Follow her on Twitter(@ashadahya) and Instagram (@ashadahya), and keep up with her documentary making process at Seed and Spark.Shownotes: http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/06/04/episode-19-reframing-reproductive-rights-with-asha-dahya/

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After a brief life update from Ashley (she's coming back to the podcast soon!) Katey talks with Cari Jackson about what to do when we long for spiritual community but have trouble finding a place where we fit in. Cari offers some ideas for how to begin creating community on our own, and we even touch on the Beyoncé Mass briefly.Rev. Dr. Cari Jackson is the author of five books, a speaker, a social healer, and a leadership coach. Cari is ordained minister, holds PhD in social ethics, and also has a law degree. She’s currently the Executive for Religious Leadership and Advocacy for the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice,  and she’s worked across many different movements and organizations, bringing hope and healing and joy to the struggle for a more just, compassionate world.Read our shownotes at: http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/05/14/episode-18-searching-for-belonging-with-cari-jackson/

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Katey joins author Rachel Marie Stone to discuss her latest book Birthing Hope: Giving Fear to the Light. We examine the simultaneous discomfort  and the awe we feel about how in the act of giving birth, we touch death as we bring new life into the world. We discuss the ways that the medicalization of birth has changed the ways that we think about birth, the importance of affirming women's self-knowledge of their own bodies, and the ways that birth can teach us about the nature of God.Rachel is the author of Eat With Joy: Redeeming God’s Gift of Food, which won won Christianity Today book award in the category of Christian Living, and was named one of Religion News Service’s “Top Ten Intriguing Books of 2013.” Her latest book Birthing Hope: Giving Fear to the Light will be available on May 1. Publisher's Weekly said "Stone’s style is reflective, making the book more of a meditation than a traditional memoir, and the prose is evocative throughout." You can pre-order Birthing Hope on Intervarsity Press.

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On this episode Katey sits down with author Erin Lane about her decision to take a year-long sabbatical, what responsibility she feels for the time, and what lessons--like celebrating small victories--she has learned that we all can incorporate into our lives, whether or not we can take a year off from paid work.Erin is the author of  Lessons in Belonging from a Church-Going Commitment Phobe and the co-editor of Talking Taboo: American Christian Women Get Frank About Faith (Katey has a chapter in this book). She is a retreat facilitator for the Center for Courage & Renewal and Chair of the Board for the Resource Center for Women & Ministry in the South. Find her at erinslane.com.

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We interview advocate Ashley Easter about her upbringing in the stay-at-home daughter movement, how reading scripture on her own paved the way for her to leave fundamentalism, and how she works to end abuse in all forms, both within the walls of the church and beyond.Ashley is a writer, speaker, and a powerful advocate for survivors of abuse, especially those who have been abused by leaders within their faith communities. She is the author of The Courage Coach: A Practical, Friendly Guide on How to Heal From Abuse. She’s also the founder of the Courage Conference, a gathering for survivors of abuse and those who love them to learn about ways that they can find healing from these past traumatic experiences. You can find her at ashleyeaster.com.

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We talk with writer Cindy Brandt about her shifting faith journey, identifying as a feminist, and approaching parenting in an unfundamentalist way. Cindy is the author of an upcoming book on parenting from a progressive Christian perspective. Her website is cindywords.com where she blogs about faith,  culture, and parenting.  She’s the founder of the Raising Children Unfundamentalist Facebook Group which has over 11K members. She describes herself as “a social justice Christian and a feminist more interested in being evangelized than evangelizing.”

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In honor of Valentine’s Day–and all of its baggage–Katey and her special co-host Matt (Katey’s husband of nearly five years) discuss what it means to be married. We talk about our failures in past relationships and how they inform our partnership today. We discuss how parenting has changed our relationship and how Matt’s background in psychology has helped us work through some of our toughest moments.If any relationship–romantic, professional, familial, and friendly–is going to be healthy and sustainable, we all need to do the deep work of self-discovery. Some of the psychological concepts that have helped us most include understanding transference and triggers. We’ll include some helpful resources to help you understand your own emotional make-up and how it can help rather than hinder your relationships.For more resources, check out our shownotes:http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/02/15/episode-13-lessons-in-marriage/

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