Approval, recognition, being seen—it matters to all of us. But it shows up differently across generations. So what happens when we stop living for likes?
In this episode, Kirby sits down with Tanya (61)—an artist, educator, and activist who came up in theater, dance, and opera long before social media—and Julius (28)—a filmmaker fresh off his first feature, navigating validation in the age of algorithms—for a tender, honest conversation about approval, self-worth, and where our sense of "enough" really comes from.
Meeting for the very first time on camera, they explore how validation shaped their art and identities—from Tanya's career-defining moment of praise from a mentor who never gave it, to Julius pouring his grief over his father's passing into a film that his community, and his mom, finally saw him through.
In this episode:
• Where validation came from before social media—family, community, and being "enough"
• The weight of reputation as currency when you're an artist
• What validation gives us (purpose, courage)—and what it quietly takes away
• Grounding yourself when comparison shows up
• Grief, creativity, and making something that helps people feel less alone
• What part of you feels most free when you're not performing for approval
From a seasoned artist who learned no one could validate her but herself… to a young filmmaker still in the middle of figuring it out… this conversation is a gentle permission slip to come home to yourself—to feel seen, heard, and like you matter.
Because in the end, the deepest validation isn't the applause. It's knowing your existence and your work matter. 🌱