Known with Mandee McD

Christina Custodio and I have had many conversations about race.  You can start with the first episode here.
In Episode 10 of Careful Conversations, we talked about younger generations.  Christina and I have talked about our daughters - her daughter Abiranna and my step-daughter Madison - and their passion for justice.  We decided to share this platform with them.  Their passionate voices need to be heard. 
I think every generation has "their thing", whether it's civil rights, anti-war, anti-racism.  There's something they are passionate about that the older generations just don't"get".  But, you know what?   Those voices get heard and those younger kids make a difference.
We are excited to share our daughters with you now!
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Christina Custodio and I have had many conversations about race.  You can start with the first episode here.
In Episode 10 of Careful Conversations, we talked about younger generations.  Christina and I have talked about our daughters - her daughter Abiranna and my step-daughter Madison - and their passion for justice.  We decided to share this platform with them.  Their passionate voices need to be heard. 
I think every generation has "their thing", whether it's civil rights, anti-war, anti-racism.  There's something they are passionate about that the older generations just don't"get".  But, you know what?   Those voices get heard and those younger kids make a difference.
We are excited to share our daughters with you now!
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Jessica Courtney is Vice President of International programs and cofounder of Preemptive Love, along with her husband, Jeremy.

In the earliest days, as Preemptive Love focused on serving children with heart defects, helping them get the therapy and surgeries they needed, Jessica was with families every step of the way, serving as their translator, advocate, and guide.

In 2016, Jessica spearheaded the launch of Preemptive Love’s Sisterhood Collective and the Kinsman brand, bringing refugee-made soap, candles, and other handcrafted products to North America—and empowering Iraqi and Syrian women and men, who lost everything to war, to own their own businesses. Today she leads Preemptive Love’s relief, jobs, and community development programs teams that currently serve in the Middle East, Latin America, and North America, building the most diverse community of peacemakers on the planet.

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I had no idea what this episode would mean when we recorded it in early May.  It is so relevant to our hurting nation.  During these discussions of racial reconciliation, let's be mindful of all minority groups.

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Christina Custodio and I became friends when she shared her story in Episode 39 of Known.  I happen to be a white woman and she happens to be a black woman, but we are both women of faith.
This time we are in is a time of hope, but also a time of fear and confusion for many.  Christina and I decided to ask each other the hard questions and say the hard things and share it with you so you feel a little more free to do the same.
In the final episode of this series, we are talking about how we both feel the same way, but differently about talking about our own experiences and perspectives.  We both feel like we can't say things, but for different reasons.  What do you feel like you can't say out loud?  What feelings do you feel guilty for?
Some of the topics are our own thoughts, but many are what we have heard from others.  If there is a topic you want us to discuss or that you want to challenge us on, please send an email or find us on social media.
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Christina Custodio and I became friends when she shared her story in Episode 39 of Known.  I happen to be a white woman and she happens to be a black woman, but we are both women of faith.
This time we are in is a time of hope, but also a time of fear and confusion for many.  Christina and I decided to ask each other the hard questions and say the hard things and share it with you so you feel a little more free to do the same.
In episode 11, we talk about how it's ok to be both the same and different.  Is it ok to adopt outside of your race?  If so, what are the responsibilities that come with that?  Is it ok to say that black culture is different from white culture?  Am I allowed to like things that are typically "black"?  
Some of the topics are our own thoughts, but many are what we have heard from others.  If there is a topic you want us to discuss or that you want to challenge us on, please send an email or find us on social media.
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Christina Custodio and I became friends when she shared her story in Episode 39 of Known.  I happen to be a white woman and she happens to be a black woman, but we are both women of faith.
This time we are in is a time of hope, but also a time of fear and confusion for many.  Christina and I decided to ask each other the hard questions and say the hard things and share it with you so you feel a little more free to do the same.
Episode 10 - can you believe we've already shared 10 conversations?  "Perhaps you were born for a time such as this" from Esther 4:14 carries some meaning for Gen Z, if you ask Christina and me.  There may be some fear that anti-racism is just a trend right now, but we are talking about why we've got more hope for the future. 
AND...this episode gave us some ideas for the future.  We cannot wait to share that with you!
Some of the topics are our own thoughts, but many are what we have heard from others.  If there is a topic you want us to discuss or that you want to challenge us on, please send an email or find us on social media.
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Christina Custodio and I became friends when she shared her story in Episode 39 of Known.  I happen to be a white woman and she happens to be a black woman, but we are both women of faith.
This time we are in is a time of hope, but also a time of fear and confusion for many.  Christina and I decided to ask each other the hard questions and say the hard things and share it with you so you feel a little more free to do the same.
Do you remember what you thought when Colin Kaepernick kneeled for the National Anthem?  I had strong feelings, then mixed emotions, and now an appreciation for his intent.  Changing your mind requires some humility and that's really hard!  But really, aren't we called to love our neighbor as ourselves?  That is the greatest call to humility there is!
Some of the topics are our own thoughts, but many are what we have heard from others.  If there is a topic you want us to discuss or that you want to challenge us on, please send an email or find us on social media.
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Christina Custodio and I became friends when she shared her story in Episode 39 of Known.  I happen to be a white woman and she happens to be a black woman, but we are both women of faith.
This time we are in is a time of hope, but also a time of fear and confusion for many.  Christina and I decided to ask each other the hard questions and say the hard things and share it with you so you feel a little more free to do the same.
Episode 8 focuses on the pain as the root of what may feel like chaos and we identify the true enemy.  We were never designed to fight against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.  Ephesians 6:12.We may not agree with each other all the time.  And you might not agree with either of us, but isn't that the beauty of diversity?  What we can agree on is that we love Jesus, He loves us and we all need Him now!
Some of the topics are our own thoughts, but many are what we have heard from others.  If there is a topic you want us to discuss or that you want to challenge us on, please send an email or find us on social media.
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Christina Custodio and I became friends when she shared her story in Episode 39 of Known.  I happen to be a white woman and she happens to be a black woman, but we are both women of faith.
This time we are in is a time of hope, but also a time of fear and confusion for many.  Christina and I decided to ask each other the hard questions and say the hard things and share it with you so you feel a little more free to do the same.
Episode 7 has a lot of hard questions for me, as a white woman to say out loud to Christina, a black woman.  Are we making progress?  How do we know George Floyd's murder an act of racism?  Why was that the tipping point?  As usual, Christina answers my questions with honesty and patience.
We may not agree with each other all the time.  And you might not agree with either of us, but isn't that the beauty of diversity?  What we can agree on is that we love Jesus, He loves us and we all need Him now!
Some of the topics are our own thoughts, but many are what we have heard from others.  If there is a topic you want us to discuss or that you want to challenge us on, please send an email or find us on social media.
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Christina Custodio and I became friends when she shared her story in Episode 39 of Known.  I happen to be a white woman and she happens to be a black woman, but we are both women of faith.
This time we are in is a time of hope, but also a time of fear and confusion for many.  Christina and I decided to ask each other the hard questions and say the hard things and share it with you so you feel a little more free to do the same.
Episode 6 starts with a conversation I hadn't planned to have.  Christina mentions this video in our conversation about the n-word.
We may not agree with each other all the time.  And you might not agree with either of us, but isn't that the beauty of diversity?  What we can agree on is that we love Jesus, He loves us and we all need Him now!
Some of the topics are our own thoughts, but many are what we have heard from others.  If there is a topic you want us to discuss or that you want to challenge us on, please send an email or find us on social media.
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Christina on IG
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