Fredrik chats to Dylan Beattie about Rockstar, esoteric programming languages (Perl in latin, anyone?), and what might happen after the AI bubble.
AI will ruin jokes, they can’t do things just right. But some things hiding under the label are actually useful as well. Have we been in any similarly strange bubbles before, and what might be left that’s useful after it?
Also evolution, revolution, and strange Scrabble facts.
Recorded during Øredev 2025.
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DylanDylan also has a podcast - Tech, bugs & rock’n’rollDylan’s presentation at Øredev 2025: Rockstar 2.0: building an esoteric language interpreter in .NETRockstarFormal grammarEsoteric programming languagesDamian ConwayPerlPerl in Latin - the paper and the moduleLatinInflectional grammarDomain-specific languagesLilypond - Scheme dialect for sheet musicContext-free grammarEngraving - the art of creating sheet musiccodewithrockstar.comSupport us on Ko-fi!ScrabbleMetal umlautPiet - the language which should have been called MondrianPiet MondrianMondrian - the undeserving toolTuring completenessThe Buster Keaton house sceneThe dot-com bubbleThe subprime mortgage crisisEnronDouglas AdamsThree mile islandWindows VistaTim Berners-LeeSolid - Tim’s project of holding your data locallyEllipsis - sponsor of the week: we edit Kodsnack, and we can edit your podcast too!The emperor’s new mindQuantum computingHadamard gateThe linebreakers - Dylan’s band of conference speakersASMLTitles
Always good fun that oneThe version of the story that I tell in the talkEnough clichésResident mad scientist of the Perl communityFelis commidet piscemAlways the cat that is eatingLexical flexibilityFundamentally, programming is programmingA big win for everyoneLinguistic conventions and extended alphabetsThat’s a different letterRegional assumptionsGerman ortographyA piece of impressionist artHang it on the wallSomething hidden in something elsePhysical comedy at its greatestMoney people believe existsThe amount of pretend moneyIt has to come from realityFortunately, I do not have a trillion dollarsQuietly siphoned offEmotionally flatWhat can I steal from?A little LLM that works for youA spectacular collapseA billion lines of crapPruning the decision treeFix the next milestone in the public consciousnessFive years of excitement, five years of disappointmentOverdue for a little disappointmentReliant on Dutch technology