Post-show

Roundtable KOTESOL Discussion

following the 2010

KOTESOL

National Candidates Discussion

October

3, 2010

Participants: 

Peadar Callaghan, Robert Capriles, Sara Davila, Matt Doyon, Doug

Huffer, Aaron Jolly,  Jeff Lebow, Stafford Lumsden, Bryan

Stoakley

Topics Discussed

 

00:30

 - Notification of Conference

Session Acceptance or Rejection

06:40 - Website Status & Recording Conference Presentations

10:00  - Role of 1st VP

13:00

 Korean Participation & Possibilities of a Korean

Language Special Interest Group

22:30 -  Openness, Transparency, Making Organization

Information Public

27:10 - More Website Update Details, Mea Culpa, &

Prospects for Professional Intervention

37:35 - National Budget

40:00 - Final Words, We KOTESOL

Onsite Voting at the International

Conference Oct. 16~17

More information about elections & candidates at: http://kotesol.org/?q=elections

Chat

Log

08:20:39  saradavila ->  Argh...skype is not

working for me...

08:20:54  saradavila ->  will try to get it

going...

08:21:48  Stoakley ->  teehee...this site uses

Drupal...ZeroPoint Theme

08:22:11  Stoakley ->  and has Suckerfish

enabled

08:22:41  saradavila ->  working on it.

08:23:15  saradavila ->  Jeff, can you send me

a skype request.

08:24:10  saradavila ->  Hi, jeff I think I

just sent you a request can you skype me.

08:25:05  jmart ->  What is a ustream?

08:25:32  dhuffer ->  the streaming audio

08:25:32  jmart ->  I don't think I have skype

on this computer.

08:25:46  jmart ->  oh, like turn off your

radio before calling in.

08:25:54  dhuffer ->  yup

08:26:13  Stoakley ->  We will be recording

sessions.

08:26:34  Stoakley ->  I will be putting it up

on our official website.

08:26:36  jmart ->  oops I think we have two

Jeffs here.

08:26:53  Stoakley ->  I am remaking the

website right now.

08:27:01  Stoakley ->  I am.

08:27:12  Stoakley ->  Skype address?

08:27:28  jl ->  koreabridge

08:27:37  Stoakley ->  nope

08:36:29  dhuffer ->  that's what peader said

08:39:22  Stoakley ->  Yes, this is true about

Korean teachers, but "easy" ways about it.

08:42:14  Stoakley ->  Competence for image?

08:42:54  jmart ->  I don't know everyones

voices so I don't know who is talking.

08:43:26  Stoakley ->  Aaron Jolly

08:43:32  Stoakley ->  Peader

08:43:43  MattinDaegu ->  in encouraging more

people of one particular group to be in leadership positions

08:44:00  MattinDaegu ->  not to say that

Koreans would not be competent

08:44:47  MattinDaegu ->  I agree with what

Peadar said that it should be 'everyone' as opposed to focusing

membship drives

08:45:38  Stoakley ->  smooth

08:45:49  Stoakley ->  lol

08:45:53  jmart ->  We should have

presentations in Korean for Korean teachers.

08:46:45  MattinDaegu ->  why not in French

for teachers from Quebec?  Or Afrikaans for South Africans?

08:46:55  jmart ->  Not all Korean schools

have the same schedule.

08:47:22  Stoakley ->  The Daejeon-ChungCheong

Chapter SPECIFICALLY changed meetings to cater to K-teachers

08:47:30  jmart ->  MattinDaegu: We are in

Korea and most people are working with Koreans.

08:47:45  MattinDaegu ->  true, but we are all

teaching English

08:48:09  MattinDaegu ->  and this brings up

the issue of competence

08:50:29  jmart ->  Accademic language fluency

is not the same as conversational fluency and you have to meet people

where they are. I did meet a teacher who used a lot of strategies to

make up for his lack of fluency. Teaching about teaching would be

something to present in Korean for Korean teachers.

08:51:03  Stoakley ->  Minutes are available.

08:51:20  jmart ->  What about competent

administrators who want to improve English teaching in their schools,

but don't speak English themselves?

08:52:01  dhuffer ->  Good points jmart

08:52:27  dhuffer ->  BT's fault!

08:52:32  MattinDaegu ->  that's a great idea,

I agree heartily...but I wonder if it would take away from resources

available...I personally have no problem with Korean sessions being

offered

08:52:37  dhuffer ->  ok, never mind

08:52:52  MattinDaegu ->  I just wonder if it

would create additional bloqs to be concerned with

08:53:24  jmart ->  I don't speak Korean so it

would be up to our Korean speakers to offer presentations and workshops

for Koreans.

08:53:45  dhuffer ->  the budget?

08:54:01  MattinDaegu ->  which, as has been

mentioned, is an issue given how few Korean members we have at the

moment

08:54:29  MattinDaegu ->  would every

conference be capable of offering such programs?

08:55:41  MattinDaegu ->  I know for the Daegu

chapter there are only a few regular Korean members, and while they are

great and would be able to run such a program, does every chapter have

such availability and would making them a national issue risk

alienating Korean members in chapters where such a program is not

available?

08:56:21  dhuffer ->  I don't think we need

Korean presentations at every conference.  A SIG would be a

good start for Koreans to communicate and be involved

08:56:35  MattinDaegu ->  fair enough

08:57:53  dhuffer ->  why don't we use

interns?

08:58:02  MattinDaegu ->  grad students

08:58:28  dhuffer ->  yes, or even compsci

undergrads.  resume foder for them

08:59:10  MattinDaegu ->  so that would be an

HR issue

08:59:39  dhuffer ->  BT - will the new site

look a little more contemporary?

09:00:31  MattinDaegu ->  I'm sure that it

would be quite easy to find a grad student willing to pad their CV with

a volunteer position

09:00:41  MattinDaegu ->  and a highly

competent one at that

09:00:49  dhuffer ->  no class tomorrow :D

09:01:46  dhuffer ->  and with an English

speaking org.  that's a good ref for someone

09:01:52  MattinDaegu ->  exactly

09:03:39  dhuffer ->  what budget??

09:03:43  MattinDaegu ->  national

09:03:51  dhuffer ->  of course

09:03:55  MattinDaegu ->  lol

09:04:02  MattinDaegu ->  uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

09:04:05  MattinDaegu ->  what???

09:04:11  MattinDaegu ->  why NOT!?!?

09:04:23  dhuffer ->  so everyone has to ask

Deborah individually?

09:04:32  dhuffer ->  thank you sara

09:04:37  MattinDaegu ->  indeed!!

09:05:05  MattinDaegu ->  don't overload

Deborah, put it up!!!

09:05:37  jl ->  this is aaron

09:06:31  Stoakley ->  we see email

09:07:14  Stoakley ->  recalled

09:07:36  Stoakley ->  hear hear

09:07:52  MattinDaegu ->  it's been

fantastically useful!

09:09:05  Stoakley ->  And vote for me!

09:09:17  Stoakley ->  oh, wait....i ain't

runnin'

09:10:00  dhuffer ->  we'll write you in

09:12:48  Stoakley ->  Thanks, gents, for

hosting this!

09:12:52  Stoakley ->  !shoosh

09:12:57  dhuffer ->  cheers!

09:13:13  Stoakley ->  und, go Drupal!

09:13:36  dhuffer ->  COBOL!!