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KOTESOL Brainstorm

November

4, 2010

Participants: 

Bradley Serl,   John Angus MacCaull, Jeff Lebow, &

Brian Quirk

Topics:

Upcoming locale elections, ways to attract new members, other

possibilities

for the upcoming year of Busan Kotesol

 

KOTESOL.org

Busan

GyeongnamChapter Site

Post-show

Roundtable KOTESOL Discussion

following the 2010

KOTESOL

National Candidates Discussion

October

3, 2010

Participants: 

Peadar Callaghan, Robert Capriles, Sara Davila, Matt Doyon, Doug

Huffer, Aaron Jolly,  Jeff Lebow, Stafford Lumsden, Bryan

Stoakley

Topics Discussed

 

00:30

 - Notification of Conference

Session Acceptance or Rejection

06:40 - Website Status & Recording Conference Presentations

10:00  - Role of 1st VP

13:00

 Korean Participation & Possibilities of a Korean

Language Special Interest Group

22:30 -  Openness, Transparency, Making Organization

Information Public

27:10 - More Website Update Details, Mea Culpa, &

Prospects for Professional Intervention

37:35 - National Budget

40:00 - Final Words, We KOTESOL

Onsite Voting at the International

Conference Oct. 16~17

More information about elections & candidates at: http://kotesol.org/?q=elections

Chat

Log

08:20:39  saradavila ->  Argh...skype is not

working for me...

08:20:54  saradavila ->  will try to get it

going...

08:21:48  Stoakley ->  teehee...this site uses

Drupal...ZeroPoint Theme

08:22:11  Stoakley ->  and has Suckerfish

enabled

08:22:41  saradavila ->  working on it.

08:23:15  saradavila ->  Jeff, can you send me

a skype request.

08:24:10  saradavila ->  Hi, jeff I think I

just sent you a request can you skype me.

08:25:05  jmart ->  What is a ustream?

08:25:32  dhuffer ->  the streaming audio

08:25:32  jmart ->  I don't think I have skype

on this computer.

08:25:46  jmart ->  oh, like turn off your

radio before calling in.

08:25:54  dhuffer ->  yup

08:26:13  Stoakley ->  We will be recording

sessions.

08:26:34  Stoakley ->  I will be putting it up

on our official website.

08:26:36  jmart ->  oops I think we have two

Jeffs here.

08:26:53  Stoakley ->  I am remaking the

website right now.

08:27:01  Stoakley ->  I am.

08:27:12  Stoakley ->  Skype address?

08:27:28  jl ->  koreabridge

08:27:37  Stoakley ->  nope

08:36:29  dhuffer ->  that's what peader said

08:39:22  Stoakley ->  Yes, this is true about

Korean teachers, but "easy" ways about it.

08:42:14  Stoakley ->  Competence for image?

08:42:54  jmart ->  I don't know everyones

voices so I don't know who is talking.

08:43:26  Stoakley ->  Aaron Jolly

08:43:32  Stoakley ->  Peader

08:43:43  MattinDaegu ->  in encouraging more

people of one particular group to be in leadership positions

08:44:00  MattinDaegu ->  not to say that

Koreans would not be competent

08:44:47  MattinDaegu ->  I agree with what

Peadar said that it should be 'everyone' as opposed to focusing

membship drives

08:45:38  Stoakley ->  smooth

08:45:49  Stoakley ->  lol

08:45:53  jmart ->  We should have

presentations in Korean for Korean teachers.

08:46:45  MattinDaegu ->  why not in French

for teachers from Quebec?  Or Afrikaans for South Africans?

08:46:55  jmart ->  Not all Korean schools

have the same schedule.

08:47:22  Stoakley ->  The Daejeon-ChungCheong

Chapter SPECIFICALLY changed meetings to cater to K-teachers

08:47:30  jmart ->  MattinDaegu: We are in

Korea and most people are working with Koreans.

08:47:45  MattinDaegu ->  true, but we are all

teaching English

08:48:09  MattinDaegu ->  and this brings up

the issue of competence

08:50:29  jmart ->  Accademic language fluency

is not the same as conversational fluency and you have to meet people

where they are. I did meet a teacher who used a lot of strategies to

make up for his lack of fluency. Teaching about teaching would be

something to present in Korean for Korean teachers.

08:51:03  Stoakley ->  Minutes are available.

08:51:20  jmart ->  What about competent

administrators who want to improve English teaching in their schools,

but don't speak English themselves?

08:52:01  dhuffer ->  Good points jmart

08:52:27  dhuffer ->  BT's fault!

08:52:32  MattinDaegu ->  that's a great idea,

I agree heartily...but I wonder if it would take away from resources

available...I personally have no problem with Korean sessions being

offered

08:52:37  dhuffer ->  ok, never mind

08:52:52  MattinDaegu ->  I just wonder if it

would create additional bloqs to be concerned with

08:53:24  jmart ->  I don't speak Korean so it

would be up to our Korean speakers to offer presentations and workshops

for Koreans.

08:53:45  dhuffer ->  the budget?

08:54:01  MattinDaegu ->  which, as has been

mentioned, is an issue given how few Korean members we have at the

moment

08:54:29  MattinDaegu ->  would every

conference be capable of offering such programs?

08:55:41  MattinDaegu ->  I know for the Daegu

chapter there are only a few regular Korean members, and while they are

great and would be able to run such a program, does every chapter have

such availability and would making them a national issue risk

alienating Korean members in chapters where such a program is not

available?

08:56:21  dhuffer ->  I don't think we need

Korean presentations at every conference.  A SIG would be a

good start for Koreans to communicate and be involved

08:56:35  MattinDaegu ->  fair enough

08:57:53  dhuffer ->  why don't we use

interns?

08:58:02  MattinDaegu ->  grad students

08:58:28  dhuffer ->  yes, or even compsci

undergrads.  resume foder for them

08:59:10  MattinDaegu ->  so that would be an

HR issue

08:59:39  dhuffer ->  BT - will the new site

look a little more contemporary?

09:00:31  MattinDaegu ->  I'm sure that it

would be quite easy to find a grad student willing to pad their CV with

a volunteer position

09:00:41  MattinDaegu ->  and a highly

competent one at that

09:00:49  dhuffer ->  no class tomorrow :D

09:01:46  dhuffer ->  and with an English

speaking org.  that's a good ref for someone

09:01:52  MattinDaegu ->  exactly

09:03:39  dhuffer ->  what budget??

09:03:43  MattinDaegu ->  national

09:03:51  dhuffer ->  of course

09:03:55  MattinDaegu ->  lol

09:04:02  MattinDaegu ->  uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

09:04:05  MattinDaegu ->  what???

09:04:11  MattinDaegu ->  why NOT!?!?

09:04:23  dhuffer ->  so everyone has to ask

Deborah individually?

09:04:32  dhuffer ->  thank you sara

09:04:37  MattinDaegu ->  indeed!!

09:05:05  MattinDaegu ->  don't overload

Deborah, put it up!!!

09:05:37  jl ->  this is aaron

09:06:31  Stoakley ->  we see email

09:07:14  Stoakley ->  recalled

09:07:36  Stoakley ->  hear hear

09:07:52  MattinDaegu ->  it's been

fantastically useful!

09:09:05  Stoakley ->  And vote for me!

09:09:17  Stoakley ->  oh, wait....i ain't

runnin'

09:10:00  dhuffer ->  we'll write you in

09:12:48  Stoakley ->  Thanks, gents, for

hosting this!

09:12:52  Stoakley ->  !shoosh

09:12:57  dhuffer ->  cheers!

09:13:13  Stoakley ->  und, go Drupal!

09:13:36  dhuffer ->  COBOL!!

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Discussions

with 2010 KOTESOL

National Candidates

October

3, 2010

Candidates for KOTESOL National Council (in order of appearance)

00:20

 Stafford Lumsden, Conference

Co-chair

17:40

 Doug Huffer,  Nominations

& Elections Chair

37:00 Aaron

Jolly, 2nd Vice President

55:45

Peadar

Callaghan, 1st Vice President

Online Voting October 4~14

Onsite Voting at the International

Conference Oct. 16~17

More informatin about elections & candidates at: http://kotesol.org/?q=elections

Post-show Roundtable Discussion Here

Chat

Log

06:51:43  craignl ->  Good evening

07:05:32  craignl ->  Good evening Peadar

07:05:46  peadar ->  evening

07:15:15  peadar ->  hi room

07:16:54  craignl ->  Evening all

07:17:23  peadar ->  I believe if anyone has

questions please speak up

07:20:02  saradavila ->  Question for

Conference Chair and Co-Chair: This year conference

acceptence/rejection process was handled in a manner I felt was very

unprofessional. I'd like to know how the conference will address this

issue in the future to make the process more personal, and show more

respect for all canidates submitting papers for the call.

07:21:56  Jeff ->  http://shomuni.blogspot.com/

07:24:32  chosunbimbo ->  @Sara I think you

have to take into consideration there were in excess of 300 proposals

received by the program team - While they were form letters that people

received they were professional and in line with any other rejection or

acceptance letter you might have received from any other organisation

07:25:55  chosunbimbo ->  This will be the

first year in A LONG TIME there have been contests for various positions

07:26:05  chosunbimbo ->  Am I the only one

here?

07:26:06  chosunbimbo ->  Hello

07:26:12  chosunbimbo ->  Is this thing on?

07:26:21  peadar ->  its here

07:26:22  chosunbimbo ->  *tap* *tap*

07:27:07  peadar ->  I can however say having

recieved one of those letters it was not inline with what was sent to

me last year

07:27:20  chosunbimbo ->  rejection letter?

07:27:36  peadar ->  was rejected last year

and accepted this year

07:30:08  chosunbimbo ->  interesting - I got

one - but being on concomm I knew the same day that the mail went out

and paid it little attention - what did it say

07:31:08  peadar ->  it required you to

download and check a full list of accepted proposals to see if you had

ben accepted or rejected

07:31:52  craignl ->  I find Paedar's comment

on rejection/acceptance from year to year interesting. As someone who

participated in the vetting process, I was somewhat concerned that

there were no clear guidelines for vetting proposals. Having been part

of Conference planning teams, both international, that's one area the

Conference Committee might consider for improvment (sorry that I'm

veering a bit off topic).

07:32:52  craignl ->  Sorry, the last sentence

should read '...both international and national'

07:33:06  peadar ->  its a great point I just

worry that the way the notifications were handeld this year might

discourage presenters in the future

07:33:49  saradavila ->  I've been a presenter

at the international for about five years. The acceptance/rejection

process this year was much different form last year.

07:34:05  saradavila ->  This year to find out

if you were accepted or rejected you had to read a list of accepted

proposals.

07:34:18  saradavila ->  Last year a form

letter was sent to presenters who had been accepted.

07:34:37  saradavila ->  A seperate letter to

presenters who had been rejected, thanking them for time and

encouraging them to resubmit.

07:34:48  craignl ->  Yes, usually when I have

made proposals to other international conferences I have usually gotten

a message courteously but clearly saying 'Yes' or 'No'

07:35:35  chosunbimbo ->  Ah I see - I didn't

realise it was just one email to everyone who submitted a paper...

07:35:59  saradavila ->  When I received the

letter and was asked to see if I was on the list of accepted proposals,

I have to say, I was insulted. Going through that list I didn't even

see my name the first time as I was so upset. There is impersonal and

then there is just unprofessional. I'm sorry, the way it was handled

this year was unprofessional.

07:36:40  MattinDaegu ->  is there any

particular reason why they changed the process?

07:37:13  saradavila ->  For submitters who

were putting in proposals for the first time, I can't imagine the let

down for those that were accepted. I mean, really, just a moment to get

that letter, even a form letter, that says "Congradulations, your paper

made it" is an achievement. I remember the first one I got, I still

have it.

07:37:44  craignl ->  I wonder if the pressure

of time caused a certain 'cutting of corners' - not to excuse what

happened, but to explain

07:38:11  saradavila ->  Those presenters who

were accepted for the first time this year lost out on that experience,

and I for one, am rather offended that an organization and large as

KOTESOL, with a conference fielding as many proposals as we have, would

use this particular method.

07:38:43  saradavila ->  Being an experience

EXCEL user it would take four minutes to set up two seperate lists for

accepted and rejected proposals.

07:38:53  saradavila ->  experienced

07:40:07  craignl ->  This may lead on to a

larger issue - for an international conference like ours, I've begun to

think having a daedline for proposals being as close to the Conference

date as it is, especially when compared to other conferences, is not a

good thing. Anyone else with thoughts on this?

07:40:28  saradavila ->  As I recall the

deadline was May 31st for proposals.

07:40:40  craignl ->  I believe it was extended

07:41:02  chosunbimbo ->  5 months - is not

all that short....

07:41:03  saradavila ->  Further, if there are

no clear guidelines in the vetting process I have to wonder about

whether or not new presenters are truly being considered as

presentations.

07:41:28  MattinDaegu ->  for an international

conference, particularly for presenters from outside of Korea, I would

say they need a little more time to make plans, books tickets etc.

07:41:49  saradavila ->  I've also been rather

unhappy with the scheduling process. At the moment my presentation is

scheduled in clear conflict with the available times I submitted to

present. I am not the only presenter who has expereinced this problem.

07:42:00  chosunbimbo ->  I'm interested in

what you say Craig - my understanding (not my dept) as that there was a

much more thorough vetting process this year

07:42:05  saradavila ->  @Jeff, EPIK show,

absolutely.

07:42:56  peadar ->  does anyone have any

opinions on the proposed then unproposed changes to the constitution

07:43:04  MattinDaegu ->  is the vetting

process codified in the bylaws?

07:43:05  chosunbimbo ->  Yes many

07:43:11  saradavila ->  If we are recieving

so many proposals I am curious about the need to extend?

07:43:19  Jeff -> 

http://www.koreabridge.com/kotesol/busan04/

07:43:29  chosunbimbo ->  We won't hold he

fact that he's Australian against Aaron

07:43:38  peadar ->  @ chosun please raise the

issues

07:43:45  saradavila ->  Considering the push

during last years election for communication I find the lack of

presentaiton to all members of proposed changes telling.

07:43:55  peadar ->  its a good place to

discuss them

07:44:33  chosunbimbo ->  See now, where was

this lack of communication? I got the draft, read the changes, and am

happy to cast my vote having made up my mind...

07:45:21  chosunbimbo ->  Yay! More Chapterr

Conferences! i want to go to Jeju!

07:46:57  peadar ->  @chosun I know of two

seperate drafts of the changes that were sent out

07:47:06  chosunbimbo ->  On the tabling of

the amendments - it now means that the new term of National Council

will start with some members not being able to vote - i.e. the o-Chair,

who, because of precedent usually has a voting seat on Council, but

whose vote is not set in stone as it were in the constitution

07:47:08  saradavila ->  I have not received a

draft.

07:47:18  craignl ->  @chosun - The 'lack of

communication' refers to the proposed changes to the Constitution and

Bylaws?

07:47:33  chosunbimbo ->  Web presence - Hell

Yes

07:48:32  MattinDaegu ->  just reading the

charter...it states that the proposed changes must be sent out to all

members at least 30 days prior to the vote...I never got a copy, Sara

hasn't...

07:48:48  MattinDaegu ->  I'm sure we're not

the only ones

07:48:55  craignl ->  Sorry I was just

checking some things - well, the fact is that two versions of the

proposed changes, unalike, went around to the membership. Members were

not in possession of the same set of proposed changes

07:49:00  dhuffer ->  Vote is not occuring

right now. 

07:49:06  chosunbimbo ->  OK some people

didn't get it, I'm not saying there is an element of malfesence, but it

leaves council in a position where a) status quo remains (and i believe

one "bloq on council wants this) and b) the same bloq is threatened by

another bloq who might vote against them because they doin't have the

numbers

07:49:22  chosunbimbo ->  That and some

general ineptitude in getting the info out to everyone

07:49:26  craignl ->  True, and a good

decision was made to delay the vote on this.

07:50:37  chosunbimbo ->  Yay! More kotesol

Journal!

07:50:39  peadar ->  why is it a good decision

to not manage to propose something that has been worked on for 8 months

07:51:02  chosunbimbo ->  indeed - By Laws can

be voted for at the ABM on Sunday

07:51:09  peadar ->  do to "some general

ineptitude"

07:51:17  chosunbimbo ->  As can the change in

the constitution according to one reading of the rules

07:52:08  craignl ->  I'm sorry - what reading

is that?

07:52:14  MattinDaegu ->  will they be listing

what said proposed changes are in full at the conference?

07:52:36  dhuffer ->  I think they're still

discussing the changes

07:53:08  MattinDaegu ->  will they be taking

the opportunity presented by the international conference to discuss

the changes with regular members?

07:53:08  peadar ->  call sig

07:54:07  dhuffer ->  I was told they'd be

taken up at the next national council meeting - I think that's the

leadership retreat in Dec or Jan

07:54:46  peadar ->  sadly this will not have

a membership voting opportunity

07:55:21  saradavila ->  As for the KTT it

would be great to see a bit more compesntation for preparation and

travel.

07:55:31  MattinDaegu ->  but there is a great

opportunity to at least show what the proposed changes are at this

conference...why won't they be taking advantage of it...even to just

have them on display...

07:56:22  craignl ->  Well, if the changes are

properly hammered out at the next Council, they will have to be

properly sent out, 30 days for perusal/debate, and then an electronic

ballot can be taken

07:56:40  saradavila ->  Waves!

07:56:44  saradavila ->  It's that Sara.

07:57:24  saradavila ->  As to the journal it

would nice to see grants reinstated to encourage research.

07:57:38  peadar ->  or publicity about it

07:57:58  MattinDaegu ->  ok, but my point is,

why aren't regular members being consulted, even in a broad sense, at

an international forum which would be a perfect opportunity...and the

issue raised by Chosun about bloqs could be made clear to the general

members who would then be better able to choose appropriate leadership

07:58:33  chosunbimbo ->  @Matt - come to the

ABM on Sunday and ask The National Council - They'll be there.

07:58:53  MattinDaegu ->  I'm already planning

on it!

07:58:57  dhuffer ->  I agree

07:59:22  dhuffer ->  But I don't think they

have proposals close enough to discuss.

07:59:37  chosunbimbo ->  @Matt - I think

we're all aware of the bloqs aren't we...?

08:00:12  chosunbimbo ->  3...2...1...

08:00:41  MattinDaegu ->  no, I've never been

to the national conference before...as a poli-sci major, they'll

probably become evident quickly enough but the point being I think not

every member will be so aware, and they need the opportunity to observe

their leadership

08:00:51  saradavila ->  Finally

video....Wee...

08:00:57  dhuffer ->  echo

08:01:19  chosunbimbo ->  Sorry - no video

from me...winnie the pooh jimjams not so flattering

08:02:05  MattinDaegu ->  is everyone using

video?

08:02:10  saradavila ->  Winnie makes

everything flattering.

08:02:17  dhuffer ->  just Peader

08:02:20  chosunbimbo ->  @Sara heeheehee

08:03:09  saradavila ->  Will there be no

discussion of by law issues at the National Conference, or is this the

Saturday of the National Conference?

08:03:34  chosunbimbo ->  The Annual Business

meeting will be the opportunity to bring it up Sunday 4pm

08:03:45  chosunbimbo ->  Floor is open to all

members

08:03:56  MattinDaegu ->  that's

irritating...I have to work in Daegu on Sunday...can't be there

08:04:05  dhuffer ->  You can bring it up, but

they'll probably sandbag

08:04:30  saradavila ->  Communication has

definately been an issue this year.

08:04:43  chosunbimbo ->  Well i am one of

about 4 people I know who have yet to receive a reply from Bob Caprilis

after i wrote him this week on the subject

08:04:58  saradavila ->  There have been a

number of meetings and events this year that have not been well

announced to the general members.

08:05:01  chosunbimbo ->  Other things - no

council minutes being distributed

08:05:09  dhuffer ->  he sent out mass

email.  I think that was your reply

08:05:11  chosunbimbo ->  who knows what

they're up to....

08:05:15  chosunbimbo ->  heeheehee

08:05:24  dhuffer ->  and where's the budget

been?

08:05:31  MattinDaegu ->  world domination by

the cunning use of bylaws

08:05:37  saradavila ->  Is the budget out

yet? Are we still running without a budget?

08:05:46  chosunbimbo ->  see Matt - you do

know the bloqs

08:05:49  MattinDaegu ->  lol

08:06:06  dhuffer ->  I saw one on FB

Concerned Members group.  But nothing official from KOTESOL

08:06:08  saradavila ->  Suncheon Outreach

Workshop, represent!

08:06:15  saradavila ->  Great group of

teachers yesterday!

08:06:52  saradavila ->  I was there as a KTT

invited speaker, good time.

08:08:02  MattinDaegu ->  IX. Amendments. The

Bylaws may be amended by a majority vote of members provided that

notice of the proposed change has been given to all members at least

thirty days before the vote. The Bylaws may be amended without such

prior notice only at the Annual Business Meeting, and in that case the

proposal shall require approval by three-fourths of the members

present.

08:08:25  chosunbimbo ->  @matt - indeed

08:08:27  MattinDaegu ->  this seems to imply

that there MUST be a vote on the bylaws, or any proposals

08:08:52  craignl ->  Which version, though?

Two versions went out

08:09:08  MattinDaegu ->  and if they don't

have a quarum, the vote would, according to Robert's Rules of Order, it

would not be a valid vote...this is the one currently up on the KOTESOL

website

08:09:11  chosunbimbo ->  The problem being -

soemone would have to put in the time and develop changes, distribute

and talk about them at the meeting and then propose a vote without the

motion being voted down

08:09:47  chosunbimbo ->  or being called out

of order as you note

08:10:21  chosunbimbo ->  I also have a big

issue with the "rules" and their interpretation being vested in ine

person

08:10:30  chosunbimbo ->  *one person*

08:10:49  MattinDaegu ->  so basically, any

vote made there could be argued as invalid as there's unlikely to be a

valid quorum

08:11:07  chosunbimbo ->  what is required for

a quarum?

08:11:12  chosunbimbo ->  20?

08:11:18  chosunbimbo ->  plus natcon?

08:12:22  chosunbimbo ->  there should be a

quarum at the ABM - there are enough interested general members this

year who have expressed their interest in attending

08:12:28  MattinDaegu ->  it isn't listed in

the bylaws...natcon is what I'm assuming it's talking about, which is

generally accepted as 2/3 of registered members...now the bylaws state

3/4 majority of members PRESENT, but it could be argued that this would

still be invalid as it could be used in a very sneaky way

08:13:01  MattinDaegu ->  that's assuming that

everyone would be there and available to vote

08:13:02  chosunbimbo ->  right - which is why

ONE person is not enough to turn to for an interpretaion of the rules

08:14:01  chosunbimbo ->  i play starcraft

08:14:10  MattinDaegu ->  lol

08:14:26  MattinDaegu ->  I have SouthPark on

in the background

08:15:32  dhuffer ->  there won't be a quorum

at the ABM

08:16:16  MattinDaegu ->  so when will they

make proposals open for discussion/debate to general members?

08:17:21  saradavila ->  The ABM should be on

sunday the 17th and it is usually pretty well attended.

08:17:25  saradavila ->  That was my

understanding.

08:17:47  dhuffer ->  good question. 

I don't think the current council intends for member

discussion.  it'll be straight vote

08:17:52  chosunbimbo ->  changes have been

tabled and will be looked at again by natcon - the new one - who knows

how long that will take, sent out to members and then add 30 dys before

a vote

08:18:04  MattinDaegu ->  ah...I might be

giving you some questions to ask, if you don't mind as I can't been

there...

08:18:22  chosunbimbo ->  can't be changed by

council - has to be all members

08:18:43  dhuffer ->  Constitution doesn't

define quorum, so by default it should be 1/2 of members

08:19:04  dhuffer ->  I think last year about

400 voters

08:19:17  chosunbimbo ->  who saw my brochure?

Who saw my brochure?

08:19:25  MattinDaegu ->  hmmmm...might be

something to bring up with the council...that a quorum defined in the

bylaws

08:20:15  dhuffer ->  BT!

Koreabridge Discussion - Let's

Talk Busan Post-Show

Socrates Cafe Discussion

August 15, 2010

Topic:

How does our own culutre

blind us to understanding others?

:

Greg Dolezal, Jon Hardy, Jeff Lebow, David Kim, Kim

Lee, Oh Jae Hee, Park WonSeop, Jason Stubbeman, &

 

Ashley

Summers Stubbeman

Let's

Talk Busan Show Recording

Socrates

Cafe Facebook Page

Thesocratescafe.wordpress.com

LawnChair Philosopher (Kim's blog)

Koreabridge

Discussion

Counseling & Mental Health Issues

in Korea

Guest: 

Yvon

Malenfant (interfaith counselor)

July 13, 2010

Let's Talk Busan guests, James Turnbull of TheGrandNarrative.com and Alexandra Karpen of Alex's Adventures in Asia continue their discussions about gender issues, English language media, & assorted other topics. 

Pets in Korea

July

4, 2010

Leo Mendoza & Pamela McKay stop by for a Let's Talk Busan

Post-show discussion about the Busan Abandonded Pet Sanctuary, Korea

Pet Sitting Network, and assorted issues related to pet care in Korea

Links

Busan Abandoned Pet Sanctuary

Korea Pet Sitting Network

Let's Talk Busan Recording 

BusanIlbo News Story

Kotesol

Discussion

w/ Rob Dickey &

Brad Serl

May

12, 2010

May 15 Events

* National Conference in Daegu

* Busan

Monthly Meeting - Drama in the Classroom