Cardinal George Pell was falsely accused, tried, and convicted of molesting two choir boys after Mass. One of the accusers changed his story twenty-four times and the case was so weak it was later thrown out by the Australian High Court. The case was only thrown out, however, after Cardinal Pell spent more than 400 days in prison. He joins us to discuss the case, his time in prison, the Church in Germany, and many more topics.