In this episode Kris Neckelmann shares how getting fired from a bank job inspired her to go full-time into visualization. You’re going to love this passionate interview!

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Running Order

• Intro
• Welcome
• Who is Kris?
• Kris’ origin story
• The work Kris is doing now
• What Kris does to cope with pandemic
  • Yoga and meditation
  • Get out in the sun, put her feet in the grass
  • Work on a fun project
  • Walk my dog every day
• Sponsor: Concepts app
• Tools
• Tips
• Where to find Kris
• Outro

Links

Amazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.

• Kris’ Website
• Kris on Instagram
• Keep Ideas on Instagram
• Kris on LinkedIn
• Keep Ideas on Medium
• Kris on Medium
• Book: Doodle Revolution by Sunni Brown
• Jeannel King
• Book: The Alchemist by Paul Coehlo
• RSA Animates
• Book: Austin Kleon Steal Like and Artist

Tools

Amazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.

• Pentel Fude Brush Pen
• Kuretake Fountain Brush Pen
• Rhoda Sketchbooks
• Neuland BulletProof Notebook
• OTraki 4 Pack Artist Gloves for Drawing Tablet
• iPad Pro
• Apple Pencil
• Procreate
• Concepts

Tips

1. Draw sample lines with your pens before you’re under pressure
2. Find people’s work you like and analyze it to learn and grow
3. Have patience!
4. Show your work and reveal your journey

Credits

• Producer: Alec Pulianas
• Theme music: Jon Schiedermayer

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