The School Of Unlearning With Elisa Haggarty

Kristen Lisanti on Our Relationship To Change

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Today’s episode is the second in a five part series on relationships. Our guest and thought partner in this conversation is Kristen Lisanti who coaches and trains transformational leaders. After 20 years of cultivating healthy, high-performing cultures in organizations around the world, she now builds the capabilities of her clients to do the same. Kristen hosts Radiant Leader, a community of practice for transformational leaders, and immersive leadership development retreats and programs, including her mindful leadership cohort, Momentum. She lives outside New York City.

This is one of my favorite conversations on the podcast yet - and it’s an exploration of the human experience and the beauty of how our work can be fuel for our growth - and that in seeing work and career evolution as a pathway towards personal ascension and radical acceptance, we are never not in learning mode. Kristen walks us through her new framework for the 3 traps that keep leaders stuck in transitional leadership and how we use attunement and self-awareness to avoid these traps and step into the dynamic conversation of transformational leadership. 

Top 10 Take aways: 

  1. We exist in relationship to one another  - we are always interbeing and interbecoming. 
  • We do not change other people. The only thing we can do is work on and within ourselves. 
  • The 3 traps of transactional leadership are 1. The Compliant Trap. 2. The Controlling Trap and 3. The Knowing Trap. 
  • Transformational leadership has nothing to do with your role or seniority and everything to do with relating to a purposeful vision and creating conditions for the team to achieve that vision. 
  • Attuning ourselves and the people around us is essential for transformational leadership. 
  • Change is not a sprint. Change is not a marathon. Change is infinite. 
  • The case for efficiency and effectiveness is slowing down. 
  •  “Perfectionism is not perfection. Perfect is not a thing. Completeness is not a thing. Everything is always iterating and evolving forever.”
  • STOP, a classic mindfulness practice helps us move away from reactivity and creates space - in turn, opening us up the option of choice. 
  • Check in with yourself - are you in a story that you didn’t write? 

    • Follow Kristen at @kristenlisanti and @radiantleader.co and for more on her body of work, visit www.kristenlisanti.com


    Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

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