Andre and I had a little smoke over the weekend and talked a lot of jiu-jitsu. BJJ is more than a hobby or sport to many who practice it, and will often transforms lives and lifestyles.

Black belt Andre Devillier certainly lives it, and believes everyone should do bjj for self improvement.

We talk all about his beginnings in training, some of his experiences fighting both sanctioned and non, and even talk about a gunfight he got into in his twenties. He's such a nice guy now that it is almost unbelievable to hear the story. We also discuss a lot of death, Andre's experiences in a children's hospital, psychedelics, and much more.

Andre is a calm, kind, and down-to-earth individual with myriad experiences, and I'm grateful he was willing to share them on the podcast.