Steve Nelson is a former fly fishing guide (Alaska and Wisconsin) and is my cousin. He is a thoughtful man, and I have had the pleasure of seeing him go through his wild twenties into a more domesticated father breaching forty years of age. Steve has been a huge part of my own coming into manhood.

We discuss the many aspects of fishing, and the philosophy behind both fly and spey fishing. We talk about the lessons learned on the river and how they apply to all aspects of life, the psychedelic aspect of merging with nature while fishing, our own relationship, and much more. It was a lot of fun and it is always a pleasure to pick Steve's brain about fishing and more.