On 6 October 2019, Donald Trump ordered American troops to withdraw from northeastern Syria, where the United States had been supporting its Kurdish allies. Three days later, Turkey launched airstrikes on border towns. The air assault resulted in the displacement of over 300,000 people and countless civilian deathsThe Middle Eastern and North African alliance of socialists organised an international dialogue over zoom, that I had the benefit of participating in, on the question of Kurdish self determination. Here is an excerpt of that dialogue.