About Kurt Sanger: Kurt Sanger is a highly respected cybersecurity, national security, and information leader, known for his expertise in solving complex and high-stakes problems under demanding circumstances. With over two decades of experience serving in the U.S. Marine Corps, Kurt has a unique perspective on the responsibility of providing safety and security for American families. During his tenure, he served in a variety of roles, including as a cyber operations attorney, criminal defense counsel and prosecutor, and adviser to the Afghan National Army. Kurt is also a sought-after speaker, guest lecturer, and author and has worked with international, domestic, and local leaders in the private and public sectors. As the founder and director of Integrated Cybersecurity Partners, LLC, he continues to provide information technology and national security consultancy services. Kurt is also a cybersecurity board member and advisor for Cowbell Cyber Insurance and Batten Safe Corporation.

In this episode, Aaron and Kurt Sanger discuss:

• Understanding the challenges faced by attorneys in cyberspace within the Marine Corps
• The value of information sharing in cybersecurity to prevent future attacks and protect infrastructure
• Balancing cybersecurity regulations to protect against threats while managing costs.
• Tying cybersecurity incidents to business risks and justifying investments in cybersecurity resources from a legal perspective

Key Takeaways:

• As a cyber lawyer, Kurt finds it necessary to constantly think of fresh ways to safeguard people and assets while keeping cyberspace open, which implies approaching each scenario with a unique outlook
• Creating cybersecurity laws is challenging due to insufficient information on past attacks and how they were handled, which limits the industry's ability to learn from those experiences and prevent future attacks
• Insurance companies can assist small and medium-sized businesses in enhancing their cybersecurity, but regulations must consider the expenses of compliance and the limitations of government's expertise while prioritizing the need for improved security
• Reporting cyber incidents helps businesses understand risks and consequences, and tying it to a business risk with legal accountability elevates cybersecurity as a business issue, ensuring everyone in the organization understands the impact it can have 

"In the next five to 10 years, I hope we will see that the cybersecurity tools can be used to make the system, the greater system, more reliable. And that's what I'm working for right now, as I think we all are in this community." — Kurt Sanger

Connect with Kurt Sanger:  

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurt-sanger-311970115/

NSA’s Cybersecurity Collaboration Center: https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/

Connect with Aaron:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronccrow

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