At This Time

Kyle Gracey on Why Boards Can't Wing It When Hiring the Boss


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At This Time, we’re diving into the high-stakes world of nonprofit leadership hires. Kyle Gracey joins the show to share why boards need more than good intentions when recruiting executive directors—and why vibes don’t count as a hiring process. From micromanagement traps to onboarding strategies that actually work, this episode is packed with practical, witty wisdom for board members who want to get it right.


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