We discuss Paul’s departure from Westminster and the realities of life during Covid after being an MP, moving to Holyrood to serve in the Scottish parliament and pushing for change in Scottish politics.

And we chat about the need for alliances in communities, if we want to see real progression.

Plus, I talk about the time we had dinner beside Theresa May in the House of Commons. Seriously.

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