On this episode, get to know two absolute sports legends: volleyball superstar Gabby Reece and big wave surfer Laird Hamilton. Independently they are each pioneers in their sports and collectively, they are the husband and wife co-founders of , and , an extreme performance training system. They also do tons of philanthropic work, they’re parents, they're podcasters () and so I was shocked and thankful that they found four seconds to squeeze me into their busy lives. Gabby and Laird are informed, funny and if you want to hear from experts in risk-taking, your ears have come to the right place.