In this episode, John Oberg engages in a rich conversation with Colleen Patrick-Goudreau, a renowned vegan advocate known for her optimistic and joyful approach to cruelty-free eating and animal advocacy. Colleen discusses her journey to veganism, the impact of her numerous cookbooks, and her lectures on animal-related language. She emphasizes the importance of teaching people the 'how' of veganism, shares her views on the language we use regarding animals, and highlights the significance of meeting people where they are in their transition to a plant-based diet. Additionally, Colleen talks about her love for travel and how it enriches her advocacy work. This episode also touches upon the duality of human nature, the cultivation of compassion and joy, and practical tips for advocating veganism effectively.