Okay look, about 18 hours before recording Josh got some incredibly awful news about a friend and former bandmate so there is a few more overstated exclamations than usual. Grief is weird.

Old pal Chris Cressweel joins us on the pod to talk about getting back into playing live shows, what it's like growing up loving bands and then becoming their peers, especially Good Riddance. And also how after 15 years in The Flatliners he also ended up playing in Hot Water Music.

Hope you like talking about Halloween candy two weeks later.

Hope you like The Get Up Kids and James Bond

Hope you like Succession. We are a Succession podcast now. It's called Roy Boys.

Hope you like The Simpsons and Motorhead.

What do you know about Zack Morris, snowboard videos and Lamb Of God?

We're truly back on track this week with an almost unheard of song from Loaded for Bear, a mid-career mid tempo sad song and one of the rippinest rippers that Good Riddance ever ripped.

After a week off, we're talking about Good Riddance, but also, Smashing Pumpkins and U2.