Last to Leave

Last to Leave

By Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine AbbottTV & FilmEducationFilm Interviews
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Last to Leave episodes

  • S5E13 - April M. Chaney - Margo's Got Money Troubles - The Magic of Makeup and Manifestation

    This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson and Heather Elaine Abbott step into the vibrant, wonderfully chaotic world of Margo's Got Money Troubles alongside the show's Makeup Artist, April M. Chaney! A little cosmic timing, a whole lot of creative magic, and even more blue paint for Last to Leave fav, The Hungry Ghost! 

    In this episode, Heather and Zoey get into all things makeup, creativity, and the kind of TV magic that happens when talented people get together. April takes us behind the scenes of her work on Margo's Got Money Troubles, reflects on the winding journey of building a creative career, and shares why trusting your instincts and putting good energy out into the world can take you a long way. Plus, we get a peek inside April's makeup kit for a little "what's in my bag" moment, which, as you can imagine, sent Zoey into an absolute state of delight. 

    You can keep up with April M. Chaney and her work on Instagram @lirpamakeup or her WEBSITE.

    A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

    A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

    We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

    You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

    @LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


    Become parasocial friends with us:
    @Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

    @TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

    48 min
  • S5E12 - Aryn Mott - Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma - The Depth Within Desire

    This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson and Heather Elaine Abbott are at the bottom of the lake where the movies come from for a very special episode all about Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma. They're joined by the film's Intimacy Coordinator, Aryn Mott, for a rich discussion all about the making of this LTL certified favorite film. 

    In this episode, Heather, Zoey, and Aryn, peel back the many layers of Camp Miasma, bond over a shared devotion to dipping sauce, reflect on the importance of queer joy and representation, and gush about the film's incredible Writer/Director, Jane Schoenbrun. This one is the definition of a very special episode for your favorite film nerds! 

    If you haven't seen Camp Miasma yet, you can stream it on MUBI or buy it on digital. It's well worth the watch!

    You can keep up with Aryn Mott's career on their instagram @vancityic or their website.

    A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

    A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

    We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

    You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

    @LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


    Become parasocial friends with us:
    @Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

    @TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

    46 min
  • S5E11 - Sofia Sacomani - 100 Nights of Hero - The Vivid Process of Creating

    This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott step into the richly imagined world of 100 Nights of Hero with the film’s production designer, Sofia Sacomani. From the tiniest details tucked into the corner of a room to the boldest color choices lining a hallway, Sofia reveals how every design decision helps shape the way we experience a story.

    In this episode, Heather & Zoey dive into the power of color in visual storytelling, explore how thoughtful design choices build a film’s world, and uncover the magic hiding in the details audiences might otherwise miss. Plus, Sofia takes us through her creative journey from fashion to film, sharing how her background continues to shape her approach to production design.

    You can keep up with Sofia's work on her website.

    A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

    A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

    We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

    You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

    @LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


    Become parasocial friends with us:
    @Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

    @TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

    50 min
  • S5E10 - Shanika Lewis-Waddell - Undertone - The Tension of Creation

    This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott, investigate the demonic sound files that create the sonic texture of the indie horror film, Undertone, with the help of the film's composer, Shanika Lewis-Waddell. That's right, they're kicking off spooky season a few days early!

    In this episode, Heather & Zoey explore the power of film score to subtly influence the audience's emotions, gain insight into the palette of instruments and electronic sounds that define Undertone's composition, and are inspired by Shanika's approach to a creative life. 

    You can keep up with Shanika's work on her instagram @sh_n_sh_n_ or her website.

    A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

    A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

    We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

    You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

    @LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


    Become parasocial friends with us:
    @Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

    @TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

    30 min
  • S5E9 - Sophie Norfolk - All Her Fault - Knowing When To Save Your Bullets

    This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott peek behind the curtain of All Her Fault with Sophie Norfolk, the Boom Operator on this gripping series. From the quiet moments you never see to the carefully choreographed dance happening just outside the frame, Sophie played a crucial role in capturing the intimate and emotionally charged performances that bring the world of All Her Fault to life. 

    In this episode, Sophie takes us inside the art, quick thinking, and technical precision of boom operating, reveals the must have essentials she always keeps in her kit, and shares some of her favorite stories from set. She also reflects on the unique challenges and unexpected joys of capturing sound on a production like All Her Fault.

    You can keep up with Sophie Norfolk's work on her IMDb.

    A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

    A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

    We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

    You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

    @LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


    Become parasocial friends with us:
    @Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

    @TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

    59 min
  • S5E8 - Matt Finlin - Matter of Time - Leave Your Ego at the Door

    This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott, dive into the world of documentary filmmaking to discuss Matter of Time (2025) with the help of the film's director, Matt Finlin. Matter of Time features a string of Eddie Vedder solo concerts in Seattle in 2023 as the backdrop for the film, which chronicles efforts to find a cure for epidermolysis bullosa (EB), a rare genetic disease that can be lethal.

    In this episode, Heather & Zoey learn all about the realities of making an indie documentary, discuss the importance of funding scientific research, and are inspired by Matt's work with the EB community & Vedder family. This one is guaranteed to feed the hope machine, film nerds!

    You can watch Matter of Time on Netflix and learn more about & how to donate to support the search for a cure at matteroftimefilm.com! 

    You can keep up with Matt's work on his production company's website, Door Knocker Media, and follow him on instagram @mattfinlin

    A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

    A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

    We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

    You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

    @LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


    Become parasocial friends with us:
    @Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

    @TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

    38 min
  • S5E7 - Oisin O'Driscoll - Chris Fleming: Live at the Palace - The Art of the Grade

    This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott are stepping into the color suite with Oisin O’Driscoll, the Irish colorist who helped bring HBO Max’s Chris Fleming: Live at the Palace to life.

    In this episode, Zoey & Heather get into the wonderfully weird world of color grading, hear Oisin’s journey from Ireland to Chicago, and dig into what a colorist actually does to shape the look and feel of a project. From comedy specials to commercials to feature films, Oisin shares stories from his career, talks about the creative collaboration behind the grade, and gives us a peek behind the curtain at one of the final stages of bringing a project to life.

    You can watch Chris Fleming: Live at the Palace on HBO Max!

    You can keep up with Oisin O’Driscoll and his work through Harbor Picture Company and his Instagram @oisin_colour

    A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

    A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

    We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

    You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

    @LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


    Become parasocial friends with us:
    @Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

    @TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

    31 min
  • S5E6 - Rob Hatch-Miller & Puloma Basu - Micro Budget - The Power of Persistence

    This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott, are storming the film set of the hilarious mockumentary, Micro Budget, with the help of the film's producing duo, Rob Hatch-Miller & Puloma Basu. In this episode, Heather & Zoey giggle their way through Rob & Puloma's stories from the making of the film, bond over the woes & wahoos of indie producing, dig into the importance of saying 'yes', and walk away with a quite a few movies to add to their watchlists. 

    You can watch Micro Budget (2024) for free on Tubi! If you'd like to keep up with the film's journey, you can follow them @microbudgetmovie on instagram or check out the film's website. 

    You can keep with with Rob Hatch-Miller on his instagram @robhatchmiller or on his website. You can keep up with Puloma Basu on her instagram @puloma_b.


    A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

    A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

    We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

    You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

    @LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


    Become parasocial friends with us:
    @Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

    @TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

    38 min
  • S5E5 - Mary Florence Brown and Kelsey Fowler - The Sabrina Carpenter Music Video Spectacular feat. "Tears" and "Taste"

    Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, for a very special birthday double feature of Last to Leave! In this extra celebratory episode, we’re diving behind the scenes of two of Zoey’s favorite Sabrina Carpenter music videos: “Tears” and “Taste.”

    First up, we’re joined by Art Director Mary Florence Brown (@maryflorencebrown), who helps us unpack all things visual behind “Tears,” one of Sabrina Carpenter’s most striking music videos. We talk about creating a world that feels bold, cinematic, and unmistakably inspired by The Rocky Horror Picture Show, the collaborative process of bringing multiple custom sets to life, and the tiny details that go into making a music video in just mere DAYS.

    Then, we turn our attention to the deliciously macabre world of “Taste” with set decorator Kelsey Fowler (@kelseyafowler). From building spaces that feel equal parts glamorous, playful, and just a little bit unhinged, Kelsey reveals how the video’s unforgettable environments came together... with just one or two blocked hallway's at a time.

    Two interviews. Two music videos. One very special birthday episode.

    So grab your popcorn, put on your favorite Sabrina Carpenter song, and join us for this double feature celebrating two iconic artists who help make Sabrina Carpenter’s unforgettable worlds come to life.


    A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

    A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

    We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

    You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

    @LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


    Become parasocial friends with us:
    @Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

    @TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

    1 hr 24 min
  • S5E4 - Victoria Donovan - Hamnet - The Subtle Truth of Play

    This week on Last to Leave, Zoey Danielson & Heather Elaine Abbott peek behind the curtain of Shakespeare's Globe with Victoria Donovan, the Child Acting Coach on the set of Chloè Zhao's viscerally emotional & spiritual film, Hamnet. With a reverence for & commitment to truthful moments, Victoria Donovan helped shape the breathtaking performances of the powerhouse cast of children. 

    In this episode, Victoria imparts her well-worn perspective on how to pursue a fulfilling creative life, shares her philosophy for coaching children, and reminisces on her most cherished moments on the set of Hamnet. 

    You can keep up with Victoria Donovan's work on her IMDB and Instagram at @vixydonovan.

    A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

    A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!  

    We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

    You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here: 

    @LastToLeavePodcast on Instagram & our website: lasttoleavepodcast.com


    Become parasocial friends with us:
    @Zoey_Nicole on Instagram 

    @TheHAbbott on Instagram & Heather's Letterboxd.

    38 min

About Last to Leave

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Last to Leave is a film interview podcast hosted by Heather Elaine Abbott & Zoey Danielson. The show is all about giving a voice to a wide variety of collaborators in film & tv. Those last…